Texas executes another scumbag, NY Times protests (of course)

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Sure, i get your point, i just figure your lacking perspective in your quest to get easy troll points.

Which group, predominantly supports abortion, you ask-none, YET it has been with us since time immemorial, a hidden , covered up disgrace, that "predominantly" women suffered for, from illegal and unhygienic abortion practices, to simply being slaughtered in patriarchal societies, or being subject to trumped up adultery charges (=murder) in said same religious societies.

China, for example, or 17-18th century britain, was very fond of executing criminals.
It just occurs to me, most societies are a little bit "too" fond of executing criminals. The french....whom you hate, for being cheese eating surrender monkeys.......they were very fond of lopping peoples heads off, they handed out food at executions for fucks sake, so people would turn up and cheer.

The trick, as dexters father said, is "being sure".
I don't believe for a second, any criminal justice system can do much more than throw a dart at a board and hope they got the right "crim", be they stoning an alleged adulterous in iran, or torturing a confession from an alleged "rapist" in turkey, or "extracting" a confession from an illiterate coal miner from kentucky.

I understand your point entirely, but at the same time cannot, looking at history, believe your take on things, is actually a step forward.

Rehabilitation, well, i don't know-doing life isn't exactly that, is it.
The trick, is that all of these things are more complex than you make out, sure you could just summarily exececute them , i bet you would love that, buuut......
Sometimes, no, often, you're such a tool.

I really could give a rat's ass in this context as to your personal views of capital punishment and abortion. For that matter, what the 17th century Chinese were doing or the peccadilos of the Iranians or Turks. But I understand that, to maintain your oppose-Hap-at-any-cost credentials, you are forced to go around and around in circles in your futile quest to find a point to make.

The plain fact of the matter is that it is the liberals in the US that are predominantly opposed to capital punishment yet support abortion.

That is the point of this thread, not what the practices of various religions and countries throughout history have been on those subjects.

Your pathetic attempt to claim I have a "bloodlust" on the basis that I believe in executing murderers and rapists is testament to your narrow mindedness.

You're a cheap suit looking for a rack. Good luck finding it.
 
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what does state execution accomplish that simply detaining them for life does not?

It's far less expensive IF justice is not delayed by the pantie wearing crowd like yourself. The term is Capital Punishment. The operative word is punishment. It's not Capital Reform, or Capital Retribution, or Capital Revenge , it's PUNISHMENT!!
 
i knew you'd say that. all about the god almighty buck with you guys innit? humanity, justice, truth, all pales in comparison. what an interesting phrase "god almighty buck" . seems 'almost' a contradiction, but not really
 
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i knew you'd say that. all about the god almighty buck with you guys innit? humanity, justice, truth, all pales in comparison. what an interesting phrase "god almighty buck" . seems 'almost' a contradiction, but not really
"Humanity, justice, truth..." So interesting how those opposed to capital punishment always bring up these points when referring to the fate of the criminal, and the victims are forgotten.

As for the inhumanity done to the victims? Where is their justice? The only truth they know is they are dead or scarred forever by what was done to them.

But that doesn't matter, does it? Let's instead heap compassion on the criminals....

Contemptible.
 
like i said.... i dont know how i would react if it was a loved one.... would i kill or would i not, dont know and neither do any of you. No way of knowing until one is in that situation.

Never the less, killing of another person is WRONG, regardless if its a state or individual.

Throw em in a dark dungeon for ever, or hard labor for life.
 
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like i said.... i dont know how i would react if it was a loved one.... would i kill or would i not, dont know and neither do any of you. No way of knowing until one is in that situation.

Never the less, killing of another person is WRONG, regardless if its a state or individual.

Throw em in a dark dungeon for ever, or hard labor for life.
The MURDER of another person is wrong. There is a difference between killing someone who murdered and killing for the sake of killing. There is a difference between murder and punishment.

What do you say to the families of the victims who were murdered by criminals who were murdered before, sentenced to long stretches including LWOP, but released early because of overcrowding, etc.???
 
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Never the less, killing of another person is WRONG, regardless if its a state or individual.

Killing another human is the correct course of action in certain situations. I'll give examples:

1) You come home from work and see a man inside your house beating the hell out of your wife and child. Dead man.

2) In the middle of the night, after hearing broken glass you go downstairs and see a man coming in through your window. Dead man.

3) You happen to find yourself in a terrorist situation at the local Mickey D's along with 20 other scared people, but have your handgun and the terrorist isn't looking. Dead man.

4) Murder cases in which evidence is 100% certain. Execute the man and don't take years to do it.
 
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Killing another human is the correct course of action in certain situations. I'll give examples:

1) You come home from work and see a man inside your house beating the hell out of your wife and child. Dead man.

2) In the middle of the night, after hearing broken glass you go downstairs and see a man coming in through your window. Dead man.

3) You happen to find yourself in a terrorist situation at the local Mickey D's along with 20 other scared people, but have your handgun and the terrorist isn't looking. Dead man.

4) Murder cases in which evidence is 100% certain. Execute the man and don't take years to do it.

#1-3 is self-defense

#4 an impossibility.

gov't process is never be 100% certain. perfection is impossible, always a doubt, what's left is a matter of degree
 
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#1-3 is self-defense

#4 an impossibility.

gov't process is never be 100% certain. perfection is impossible, always a doubt, what's left is a matter of degree

How about the Brian Nichols case in Atlanta. He murdered a judge right in front of many people while in court and I believe its on video as well. That's 100%.
 
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