What they ought to do is stop running ads like these disguised as "showcases"
As to the rest....like I said, a recall is a very thorough process:
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As to the rest....like I said, a recall is a very thorough process:
Pretty stunning demonstration of Tesla's FSD imho; not another company in the world can do that. But you can't stand it because it's Tesla?
If you read the remedies, they are to increase fonts, simplify engagement and shut down the option if the driver fails to heed to the warnings. BFD.. certainly not deserving of the media attention it received.
Also, let's be clear. Kids are doing doughnuts at major intersections, racing at 100+mph on busy freeways, or getting home drunk while driving. Should we recall all vehicles? Should we ban drivers under 30? Why don't manufacturers install software to throttle cars to stated speed limit? Or prevent drivers to get behind the wheels when drunk?
My point is, the tech is there and reasonable human beings will abide by most rules. Some will break all the rules for thrills or whatever. General government reaction is to remove rights because a few don't respect rules.
In this particular case, it's only asking Tesla to modify its software to make it more difficult for idiots who skip the use agreement. Maybe some were too stupid to understand what they were supposed to do, but I suspect the idiots will find workarounds.
"They're unbelievable because they literally cannot be believed."
Well how can you argue with that?
Because if they were believable then they would be .... ummm believed.
So let's see, multiple actually news stories documenting incidents or some TwittHead err XHead I guess now is the moniker? That is until X becomes Chapter X lol.
Merry XMas (sorry Elon we beat you to it with that one) all. Roading it in a few hours - till next week or the following.
Well how can you argue with that?
Because if they were believable then they would be .... ummm believed.
So let's see, multiple actually news stories documenting incidents or some TwittHead err XHead I guess now is the moniker? That is until X becomes Chapter X lol.
Merry XMas (sorry Elon we beat you to it with that one) all. Roading it in a few hours - till next week or the following.
When nothing to say, say nothing
Plenty companies have above level 2 autonomy. None try to pass it off as some "hands off"/FSD approach only to say otherwise in the small print and when shit hits the fan in a recall.
https://autocrypt.io/the-state-of-level-3-autonomous-driving-in-2023/
Did you read the remedies? Because I quoted them for you.
I don't give a shit what people do, freedom is scary that way. I do care if a car steers into emergency response vehicles by itself though.
You're quoting MY"tesla"weekend, what do you expect people to say?
I don't think that is impressive at all. It is basically ideal conditions with good weather, not much traffic, very well marked highway lanes and good roads. So much of the country has terrible roads that at least half the time has terrible weather.
It is also from 4 years ago. It is interesting how there is no updated video on Tesla channel showing off all the progress that has been made since that video. Probably because self driving becomes exponentially harder to make progress on the closer you get to self driving. The last 5-10% will probably take longer than all the time to get to that last 5-10%.
It is also from 4 years ago. It is interesting how there is no updated video on Tesla channel showing off all the progress that has been made since that video. Probably because self driving becomes exponentially harder to make progress on the closer you get to self driving. The last 5-10% will probably take longer than all the time to get to that last 5-10%.
There are a number of YT of individuals testing the limits of the latest versions of FSD.
But you're right, it's going to be exponentially more difficult to get it right all the time, because Tesla is global and FSD must adapt to all driving conditions. Again, FSD stands far and above all other efforts. GM's program is going out of business and MB's level 3 is an absolute joke not worth arguing.
Anyway, Tesla's compute power is super computer level that no other auto manufacturers can match; it's already the standard. With Dojo hardware and the use of AI, FSD will evolve.
It's pretty obvious that at some point, within 5 years for sure, Tesla will be leasing FSD to most other car manufacturers, like it's now starting to with their charging points. The tremendous cost of FSD development needs to be monetized and I'm not sure Tesla has quite figured out how to sell it to governments and consumers.
In Europe, where government pays for or heavily subsidizes healthcare, the incentive to significantly reduce or eliminate vehicle accidents is quite high. Once Tesla's FSD is proven to be much safer than humans in all situations, human driving will quickly go the way of horses and carriage.
That's an excellent point, and if had to guess, I suspect it's quite true.
Edit:
Kinda like Powell's 2% inflation target.
Maybe it's not the media or bad drivers but instead ...
https://news.yahoo.com/tech/tesla-owner-says-got-14-164758526.html
A Tesla owner says he got a $14,000 repair bill one day after buying a Model Y. A new report suggests it's part of a much bigger problem.
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Updated Thu, December 21, 2023 at 4:13 AM CST·3 min read
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A Tesla owner says he got a $14,000 repair bill one day after buying a Model Y. A new report suggests it's part of a much bigger problem.
The Tesla Model Y.Tim Levin/Insider
Shreyansh Jain, a former Tesla owner, was hit with a $14,000 repair bill from an issue he encountered less than 24 hours after taking his brand-new Model Y home, a recent report said.
A Tesla owner received a $14,000 repair bill for a day-one issue with his Model Y, Reuters reported.
- He said the Model Y's suspension broke with only 115 miles on the odometer.
- Reuters found that Tesla had faced thousands of complaints over suspension and steering issues.
Jain told Reuters part of his electric vehicle's suspension broke when he was driving with his family the day after he'd received delivery of the Model Y. He said the car had 115 miles on its odometer when the suspension issue caused portions of the vehicle to come in contact with the road and Jain to lose steering capabilities.
The Reuters investigation — which cited interviews with more than 20 customers and 9 Tesla workers, as well as thousands of internal documents — found that Jain was one of thousands of Tesla owners to face issues with the company's suspension or steering over the past six years. The publication reported that while Tesla had publicly denied some of the issues and attempted to put the onus on owners, the automaker was more aware of the issues than it had indicated publicly.
Tesla, which disbanded its press department years ago, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Elon Musk has admitted in the past that the carmaker has faced some quality issues, especially during production ramps.
"When you go faster, you just discover these things," he told the auto expert Sandy Munro in 2021. "If we knew them in advance, we'd fix them in advance."
Jain told Reuters that his family went from "over the moon" to "absolutely petrified" when the car they had paid about $55,000 to buy broke down on the road.
Reuters reported that after Jain took the vehicle into a Tesla service center, a worker initially told Jain that they'd found "no evidence of an external damage" and suggested the electric-car maker would pay for the car to be fixed. But Jain later learned he was expected to pay the $14,000 repair bill after Tesla sent him a letter indicating the issue was the result of "prior" damage, the publication reported.
The former Tesla owner told Reuters he ended up paying an insurance deductible of about $1,250 and faced a higher insurance premium going forward. The suspension issue took three months for Tesla to fix, and Jain resold the vehicle at a loss of about $10,000, Reuters reported.
Reuters' investigation is far from the first peek into issues with quality control at Tesla. For example, earlier this year, Tesla was investigated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration over reports of some of Tesla's steering wheels falling off while people were driving.
The carmaker has also faced scrutiny from regulators over concerns related to its Autopilot and beta Full Self-Driving features and recently issued an over-the-air update after the NHTSA said the company's system for monitoring drivers that used the features was faulty.
Tesla owners have also pointed out quality-control issues with the brand over the years — from panel gaps and uneven paint jobs to issues at the company's service centers.
Do you work at Tesla or own an EV? Reach out to the reporter from a non-work email at gkay@insider.com
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