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Tell me a first world country that is not socialist
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Quality of life just doesn't depend on this, it also depends on how well you are accepted by that culture. If you are Chinese and live in HKG, you are simply not going to receive the same amount of discrimination and disgust that you will receive in Vienna, Paris or other alien cultures no matter how much money you have.
WTF ?!?
I know more abt Paris than Vienna, ime well off chinese in Paris do pretty well and face very little disgust nor discrimination, if at all. Especially poorer chinese might actually face more of it in HK, although I understand why a chinese would feel more at home in HK than in Paris as the culture and language in HK are much more similar
If a chinese can't deal with Paris attitude towards chinese expats, than most likely he's just not made to live as an expat in a western culture. This pretty much applies to london as well and I suspect many more european cities
Whatever ? Is that because you appear to be talking out of your ass that you feel the need to be impolite ?
I'm a westerner
Besides chinese or other foreigners are NOT FACED with what other say privately, and people defiance about others' culture is pretty much standard - in Asia probably more than in the West btw.
I'm a westerner
Besides chinese or other foreigners are NOT FACED with what other say privately, and people defiance about others' culture is pretty much standard - in Asia probably more than in the West btw.
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Whatever ? Is that because you appear to be talking out of your ass that you feel the need to be impolite ?
I'm a westerner
Besides chinese or other foreigners are NOT FACED with what other say privately, and people defiance about others' culture is pretty much standard - in Asia probably more than in the West btw.
My point is very simple.
The notion that you can just uproot yourself,go to a different country and live happily ever after is a naive fantasy best reserved for high-school kiddies who inhabit this forum and think they can just make tons of money and retire to Tahiti. It is just that, a fantasy. I have been there, done that. Unless you truly live in a destitute city devoid of any sanity or infrastructure like downtown Mogadishu, it is always better to live among your own people where your culture, friends and family connections are existent.
That's not what you first said, anyway, your personal case mostly relates to :
"If a chinese can't deal with Paris attitude towards chinese expats, than most likely he's just not made to live as an expat in a western culture"
In the sense some people aren't cut out to move overseas (been there done that myself, and know plenty of overall satisfied migrants)
"The notion that you can just uproot yourself,go to a different country and live happily ever after is a naive fantasy best reserved for high-school kiddies who inhabit this forum and think they can just make tons of money and retire to Tahiti."
It is again your discourse which is very childish (starting with the dream to retire in Tahiti - how much more boring a dream could one have ?). Many immigrants do very well, East and West. I'm a little lazy to double check but the number of Fortune 500 foreign born CEOs should give you a clue.
"If a chinese can't deal with Paris attitude towards chinese expats, than most likely he's just not made to live as an expat in a western culture"
In the sense some people aren't cut out to move overseas (been there done that myself, and know plenty of overall satisfied migrants)
"The notion that you can just uproot yourself,go to a different country and live happily ever after is a naive fantasy best reserved for high-school kiddies who inhabit this forum and think they can just make tons of money and retire to Tahiti."
It is again your discourse which is very childish (starting with the dream to retire in Tahiti - how much more boring a dream could one have ?). Many immigrants do very well, East and West. I'm a little lazy to double check but the number of Fortune 500 foreign born CEOs should give you a clue.
This reminds me of the american guy in the Swiss Janitors thread - according to him swiss are thieving racists and some more, yet over 50% of the Geneva population is foreign born and I know a bunch of them who have no hurry to head back where they are from. In that case, the problem was most likely the lack of ability of this poster to uproot - but no need neither to put the blame on locals nor to deny better abilities of others to adjust overseas.
My view, and it seems quite consistent with the standard definitions of "capitalism", is that what we call "corporatism" is just one of the ways capitalism manifests itself. In other words, corporatism is just a form of capitalism.
Here is an apropos, well-written article closely related to the topic of this thread.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/socialism_vs_welfare_statism_vs_free-markets_vs_corporatism/