Technical Analysis Doesn't Work

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Quote from marketsurfer:

even paper trading on collective2 would be enough for proflogic to verify his claims... he doesn't have to reveal anything on collective2--- his system simply can't survive a real time test of any kind, obviously.

surf

Timertrac is perfect. It won't cost the Prof anything. C2 just accepts a wider array of instruments. But maybe it is hard on a "professor's" salary...
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

You miss the point. No one wants anyone's logic. You tweezed that out of a long and left most of the other stuff out.

But people claiming to be trading gurus, and constantly spreading their trading acumen (such as chloride a couple weeks ago, or Bulls n Bears claiming to run a successful company and wanting to start a service after 5 weeks before pleading for mentors, etc. etc.), then most of this is suspect.

No one has to do anything. But coming on "I am wildly successful, believe me, follow me" then they shouldn't mind demonstrating it. Otherwise, they should leave their self-testimonials and guru mantles at the door.

If you don't agree, then well, you don't agree. I have nothing more to say on that.

Your post I responded to did not mention any gurus or those claiming to be looking for followers so my comments were not intended to miss anything. I was responding to what was written in your post. If you had another premise such as specific gurus, then it was not clear to me.
 
Timertrac is perfect. It won't cost the Prof anything. C2 just accepts a wider array of instruments. But maybe it is hard on a "professor's" salary...

I plan to expose the professor's $4000 seminars as the Fluffernutter they appear to be, based on past ET complaints against him. There appears to be little competition for a serious trader.
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

Those who claim ability should have no fear of substantiating their claims.
I never pretended to have "abilities."

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There is a good reason for that, Mr. Canfiel: You have no abilities. Your own track record on your own website, Futures-Systems.com proves that. You disagree? Then please answer me the question: Would YOU have any interest in a person's trading advice that showed a record such as yours? Since your mission seems to be to expose "vendors"- would you pay someone even 50 cents for trading advice that had a record like your own?

So- please oblige me and explain why, on that same website, you offer subscriptions costing $ 1300 for one year? For what exactly? To get "market direction" from somebody like you? You must be kidding, right? I want only one information from you, pleas show me the record, pleeease: how many people have read your track record and actually subscribed?


Now you found a fellow "myth- exposer" friend in Marketsurfer/ Dave Goodboy. He has no trading abilities either that I can see, except shorting tops in Uptrends and moving his papertrading stops when hit. So the two of you get together- a Vendor who has nothing to sell and a Charlatan who can't trade- come out and"expose" someone like Jack H. or Proflogic? That is truly hilarious. I have seen Proflogic trade, and trust me, he can. Records of Jack's methodologies can be found in Spyder's Journals, if one looks deep enough. Spyder's beginning swing trading journal had a record attached to it which was about 10 times the return of your tragicomic website, and that was at the very beginning, 4 years ago.

These guys live in a different universe from you two... which probably explains your agitated activity...
 
Quote from Vienna:

There is a good reason for that, Mr. Canfiel: You have no abilities. Your own track record on your own website, Futures-Systems.com proves that.

You disagree?


Yes.

Try subscribing at the website or C2; you will find subs have never been accepted. The C2 was a $98 testbed for some support/resistance ideas and perhaps an eventual service down the road.

I never said it was a track record for my personal trading; others did. People read into it like they have uncovered a magic pearl, but they will be barking up the wrong tree. Funny thing, it is positive, not negative.

The website is an incomplete package for a service, but it was never launched. I may do something for a service in the future, but that is my choosing, not others. I am in no hurry.

I will show how I trade when ProfLogic decides to show and we can agree to an acceptable contest.

Shame Jack declined, as apparently he always does. "Does not meet requirements? Please!"
 
Quote from optioncoach:

Your post I responded to did not mention any gurus or those claiming to be looking for followers so my comments were not intended to miss anything. I was responding to what was written in your post. If you had another premise such as specific gurus, then it was not clear to me.

The concept I was trolling for logic was tweezed from this; it is hardly a request for other's logic:
"I get tired of the people saying "you can't measure that" or "you don't know anything; I have been daytrading 2 months and I am therefore a longterm profitable trader" or "here is my broker statements (of course I doctored them first in powerpoint)" or "I make $6K a day but I refuse to demo it or let you know my logic" or "I know someone who knows someone who makes a million a day" or "what do studies prove? I know it works therefore that is evidence enough" or "I am a successful daytrading guru - love & worship me" or ""I don't have time for that" etc. etc."
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

Which requirement:

"you are such a wealth of experience and knowledge"
"showing your trading acumen!!!"

or " well, I never said my stuff WORKed, I just like others to THINK I can trade"

???

sharpe, Profit Factor and R/R.

Sorry.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

Proflogic clearly has no clue what you are talking about. odds are 98% that he will not play in an arena that will actually verify his system.

regards,

surf

Prof asked ranfiel to put up or shut up on terms


You have to be kidding if you think ranfiel offered anything.
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

So yours are too low to qualify?

They exceed your upper limits as you posted. It is the same old thing for you. any one who has numbers is a fake and the only reason they could be successful is by some fluke like you imagine those you listed to be.

You are in a different league that the types of top traders I have as colleagues around the world. none of us would go down to the levels you think are the top levels that you think precludes having some anomaly be the reason for success.

You began this thread saying TA doesn't work (except...lala..for price action). Just because you cannot get acquainted with top trading and are still Phishing for a hook or something to market, that doesn't mean our world of top trading isn't happening.

From what you said my numbers are not real and, therefore I do not qualify to compete.

Prof asked you to put up or shut up.

That is SOP for spyder as well. No one has ever met the put up or shut up that they initially suggested. Every challenger has backed off when the chips were down. You don't even have any chips.

Put up or shut up refers to something of value.

The lame stuff you post in response to my posts is absolutely worthless as well.

all you are around ET, at this point, is a break for reading some humor.
 
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