Technical Analysis Doesn't Work

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Quote from jack hershey:

My lucky day.

Anyone can answer these questions.

1. What is the title of the book that profiles the research and business activity principal of the paper above cited?

2. What is the name of the author?

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What if the principal ever recognizes where he refused to accept reason?

What if he goes to the logical conclusions the guys who quit had discovered?

Last question.

9. Would he throw this working paper into the shit can?

Surf you are totally screwed in your thinking. He asks "any questions?" What a funny situation to get trapped by.


You appear to be privy to secret, inside information-- perhaps from the trillateral commission or the illuminati? Would you kindly share the source of such fascinating insight.

Thank you,

surfer
 
Quote from rcanfiel:



QED: TA still does not work. And again as originally stated, this thread made very clear that pure price action was not included in this thread.

If you're going to set up a straw man, don't be surprised if respondents don't behave as expected.

Price action IS technical analysis. If you want to advance the proposition that technical indicators "don't work", that's something else entirely.

LC
 
Quote from Lamont_C:

If you're going to set up a straw man, don't be surprised if respondents don't behave as expected.

Price action IS technical analysis. If you want to advance the proposition that technical indicators "don't work", that's something else entirely.

LC

My definition was in the OP. As the starter of a thread, one is allowed to frame the discussion. Others are allowed to say whatever they want.

But putting price action back into TA when the OP excluded it does not mean the OP has to agree that this was the topic of discussion, which obviously it was not.
 
Quote from Spydertrader:

Either you have an inability to grasp the obvious, or you intentionally excluded my post from your analysis. Either way, it makes no difference to me.

I need to head over to the bank now and withdraw some 'fervent belief.' :D

- Spydertrader

This thread is 96 pages long and I doubt anyone memorized it. If there is something you are pointing to in particular, please at least give a page#
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

My definition was in the OP. As the starter of a thread, one is allowed to frame the discussion. Others are allowed to say whatever they want.

But putting price action back into TA when the OP excluded it does not mean the OP has to agree that this was the topic of discussion, which obviously it was not.

Yes, you can define it however you like. You can define it as book value. And, no, you do not have to agree that TA correctly defined was the topic of discussion.

However, if your definition of TA is completely inaccurate, don't be shocked if those who participate in the thread decide to pick up the ball and play in another field, particularly if the other field defines the rules correctly.

LC
 
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Quote from jack hershey:

Surfer is bent spindled and mutilated as far as we can see. So is thunderdog and ranfiel and so on down the line.

Read my OP. Nothing from that OP to this point has overturned the original tenet.

There have been insults, doubts about psychological stability, and a number of things that fit right down the line about my original assertion of what people would put forward (see list in OP).

The funniest thing has been a handful of posts that pick away at studies and dismiss them, without any reason to dismiss them other than an occasional spelling mistake, or whining about the preconditions, appendices and conditions of the studies or anecdotal stories about why they think studies do not matter. It is thoroughly obvious most of those folks have little idea about what goes into published research.

Still, nothing solid has been put forward to disprove the original assertion.

QED: TA still does not work. And again as originally stated, this thread made very clear that pure price action was not included in this thread.

By the numbers.

True you did not make it vis a vis making money in any way that comes close to what TA represents, scientifically, the market is offering. In contrast, many others have. The market's offerings are the standard. specifically, surf reported out in this thread what it is like to see the results of SCT trading by a practitioneruing price and volume TA.

Published quality research is a key for understanding what the market offers. Once what the market offers is known to an investigator and his team, then there is a null hypothesis possibility. Presume for a moment that you can do these two things. Then you would embark on testing the null hypothesis.

At some point you and your team would have the results.

Skipping forward, let us read your conclusions. Now we know the market offers and the offering is qualified in scientific terms. There is a long bibiolography as well.

If you ever became armed with these results you would then embark on upon the process of doing the pragmatic work to set up and operate an organization that could realize what the market offers.

Your original assertion is something that no one will every disprove. There is a reason. It has been pointed out to you repeatedly, in fact. If you were a principal and had a team to work on a project, you could pass the OP around and the team would explain to you why your assertion is something that no one will ever disprove.

Thank goodness it doesn't matter at all in any way.

Much disciplined research is needed to deal with many major subjects that, at this point, are unresolved properly. These last months and the months ahead will sharpen those who are bearing the consequences of past poorly done research. Then, they will apply capital properly to get more research done.

You didn't do yours either.

I have done mine for many many years. I have done reaearch in many fields it turns out. more importantly, I have applied research appropriately and instituionalized the results in many fields.

I conclude that TA works and I have the pragmatic results, as well, that proves that it works. I am not giving you anything and you have nothing to offer anyone.

You and thunderdog and surf, et al will be sitting together on the same perch as the people whose work you have based your beliefs upon.

Think of all those people who start all those threads with my name in them. The one person who started the journals is the person who got through to surf in order that surf get it that what the journal coordinator is doing is an example of using TA in everysense of TA to scietifically make what the market offers.

Week after week, others start derogatory threads to satisfy their needs. These people have a common set of characteristics which are the consequence of the intellectual and experiential lives they are leading. Too bad for them.

What is required to make money in markets is following a scientific and rigorous path to get to be able to extract what the market offers. For me the research is in and it took many years. Of the first 25 years I spent, most of it was iteratively refing things. After that it was simply applying the technology as it became available to pragmatically operate the paradigm.

At nearly 75, I am able to participate with any informed trader that I meet. Informed trader is a standard term in the financial industry. Informed traders can recognize one another, FYI.
 
Quote from jack hershey:

My lucky day.

Anyone can answer these questions.

1. What is the title of the book that profiles the research and business activity principal of the paper above cited?
The Predictors ?? :D

Quote from jack hershey:

2. What is the name of the author?

3. How recently did I mention this author and to whom was I addressing the comment?

4. On what page of the book does the quoted conversation of this principal reveal that hes has just found out a bout bid and ask and ticks and spread? If you got the above questions right you can open the book to page 197 and read this humor.

The team that worked for the principal in the corporation that the book is named for and where the corporation was under contract to one of the donnors to the research for the above cited paper, had two members quit. they were the first to quit.

5. What did they discover that blew their minds with eagerness?

6. Who, upon returning to Sante Fe, rejected their idea?

7. What did these guys give up as a consequence?

8. How long did they make this sacrifice before they quit?

Now what if????

What if the principal ever recognizes where he refused to accept reason?

What if he goes to the logical conclusions the guys who quit had discovered?

Last question.

9. Would he throw this working paper into the shit can?

Surf you are totally screwed in your thinking. He asks "any questions?" What a funny situation to get trapped by.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

You appear to be privy to secret, inside information-- perhaps from the trillateral commission or the illuminati? Would you kindly share the source of such fascinating insight.

Thank you,

surfer

You are correct.

NO.
 
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