Technical Analysis = CRAP

[ProfLogic]

Quote from RCG Trader:

I've gone out of my way to be polite to Surf, but that request cannot but put him in the hack category. The nerve!

I am witness to this Surf, as I was under Prof's advisement when you two met. He has tried to get you to test, he has invited you for tea and trading, he has opened sourced his code. And I now believe that is the reason you will not test it. It is open sourced. You want something you can steal, can it your own, and market. Forget it buddy, not here.

RCG, it took me over a year working with 3 separate sets of security programmers to come up with a method of locking what I do down to a testable program. It was a real bugger but we did it. The 3 layers of security was cool but having the program report back to us, in milliseconds, the slightest attempt at hacking was brilliant. The guys we worked with told us this combination of security protocols has never been accomplished with such a robust program so I'm not concerned surf or his buddies could work through all of the walls.

We are finishing up the last upgrade so in a few weeks, if surf signs a non-disclosure, I'll send him a fully operational testable program to beat up. And just to keep him honest, I'll post the same trades he sees in the program here on ET. Since the program is 100% objective I can do this.

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Wha? You want my code??????

Seriously?????

So, to prove Surf wrong he does not want a statement, he wants a traders algo!:eek:

I could have gone to work for JPM or some other corporate thief if I wanted to spend a significant portion of my life writing something only to hand it over

Are you insane?

Ok. Then just open an account with covestor or collective2 among others --- plug in your code and let it trade for 6 months------- sound good?

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Im not.

You just said that you would reject an audited statement of performance. You want the source code for the performance. Do you really think you are going to find someone that stupid ??

Prof puts his stuff out there for....I don't know really. But he is a trader that has a much much more humanitarian spirit in him towards long suffering. Have you EVER made so much as a single line of any idea that actually applies to trading public?? Anywhere??

It takes a lot self conceitedness and ultimately hubris to ask anyone for anything you would not do yourself.

Unbelievable, bruh, just unbelievable.

Of course not-- those trades could be made by any method , luck, etc on an audited statement. Heck, you could even have 2 accounts but only show the winning one. Audited statements don't explain how the trades were made. This conversation is about objective TA. Nothing else.

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from ProfLogic:

RCG, it took me over a year working with 3 separate sets of security programmers to come up with a method of locking what I do down to a testable program. It was a real bugger but we did it. The 3 layers of security was cool but having the program report back to us, in milliseconds, the slightest attempt at hacking was brilliant. The guys we worked with told us this combination of security protocols has never been accomplished with such a robust program so I'm not concerned surf or his buddies could work through all of the walls.

We are finishing up the last upgrade so in a few weeks, if surf signs a non-disclosure, I'll send him a fully operational testable program to beat up. And just to keep him honest, I'll post the same trades he sees in the program here on ET. Since the program is 100% objective I can do this.

You give that cat too much credit. He can just as easily take the code for the ergodics and the settings you have freely given and use his eyes. Any platform will do it. You have gone out of your way to accommodate the mediocre work ethic so many people have. Hell, you just gave away to some innocent newbies walking the parameters for intra-day versus swing oscillations.

Nah, Surf wants something dropped in his lap, and that is just lame.

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from ProfLogic:



We are finishing up the last upgrade so in a few weeks, if surf signs a non-disclosure, I'll send him a fully operational testable program to beat up. And just to keep him honest, I'll post the same trades he sees in the program here on ET. Since the program is 100% objective I can do this.

Great, I sure will. But I'll need to share it with my 2 quants--- they are much better at testing than myself.

Believe it or not, I would love to see it work


Surf


Ps. Why not throw the trades up on collective2 also? Only upside for you if it is as claimed

 

[Rodney King]

Quote from marketsurfer:

Ps. Why not throw the trades up on collective2 also? Only upside for you if it is as claimed

Doesn't Mr Wollinsky have his proflogical program already up on c2? Or is it no longer updated?

 

[ProfLogic]

Quote from marketsurfer:

Sorry you feel that way. RCG. I'm not going to a prof seminar or trading Tea (WTF?)-- that's not how to verify anything. However--
Prof can send me the code. He never has despite allegations to the contrary.
Send it to me , I'll be happy to put it through the ringer and report back the results. OR if it's open source just post the URL here and I'll take a look.
Surf
Just maybe, if it's as he says, I'll become a Proflogic proponent imagine that!

I've offered many times to show you so you could duplicate my process on your own. You have repeatedly and vehemently refused.

Many on this forum have used the open information I posted to test it. You have chosen, for whatever reason, not to do that.

I've only recently canned it and that was so individuals like yourself could test it without the possibility of hacking it.

 

[Fireplace]

Just further proof that some people are meant to be pro's in a field and others just casual observers (i.e hobbyists)

Quote from ProfLogic:

I've offered many times to show you so you could duplicate my process on your own. You have repeatedly and vehemently refused.

Many on this forum have used the open information I posted to test it. You have chosen, for whatever reason, not to do that.

 

[ProfLogic]

Quote from RCG Trader:

You give that cat too much credit. He can just as easily take the code for the ergodics and the settings you have freely given and use his eyes. Any platform will do it. You have gone out of your way to accommodate the mediocre work ethic so many people have. Hell, you just gave away to some innocent newbies walking the parameters for intra-day versus swing oscillations.

Nah, Surf wants something dropped in his lap, and that is just lame.

Point made and agree.

 

[ProfLogic]

Quote from marketsurfer:

Ps. Why not throw the trades up on collective2 also? Only upside for you if it is as claimed

First of all I trade during the day and Collective2 is a waste of time IMHO.

My site will be up soon so the world can play with it and you will never again be able to deny it's validity.