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Whenever you see a note from this name, you should be aware that something doesn't smell right!
This is in response to Chris Donnell / TopGun Software's recent post in this thread.
Second the delays in quotes you are referring too has nothing to do with TM as it does the data provider. There are known issues with certain FCM's data and we have it well documented.
Again, I felt bad about my post and after I got back from lunch tried to delete it but it wouldn't let me so I decided to apologize. As far as delays in quotes I am not alone in experiencing this and I found it both using PATS data and eSignal. I've read numerous people complain about the PATS feed so in those cases I believe the previous poster. However when it comes to comparing Trade Maven running in eSignal simulation mode to eSignal's charts, BOTH using the same data stream, when Trade Maven runs behind for 3 to 5 seconds I do blame that program. That's why I still believe it is written on the .NET platform. Most C++ programs don't get behind like that and have a more robust feel. Try Velocity Futures X Trader platform, for example, its rock solid and never feels like the software is eating up too many CPU cycles. They are also our competitor but there is no denying how good and solid that platform is.
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Third, TM does have an adjustable tool used to only see certain size trades. So in TM you can only be alerted to any trade that trades with a lot size above 100 for example. It is called the Institutional Volume Filter.
Sounds like a fantastic feature that I missed when trying the demo last August. Hey I give Trade Maven props for putting in some very useful features.
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Fourth, TM is used in Prop Shops, by hedge funds and trade arcades to trade serious volume. With millions of trades executed so far and new customers coming on board daily from word of mouth referrals, the picture you paint is just a blatant attempt to smear other products to try and get yours going..which leads us to the issues with your business practices.
I have never made mention of Trade Maven not being popular. The fact is I even like it myself and once traded with it. My only comment and this is from personal experience as well as reading other people's posts in the past is that it sometimes falls behind. That is the 100% honest truth and if anybody wants me to provide video proof of this I'd be happy to do so, it may take a week to find very fast markets where the trade rate skyrockets and TM falls behind but I've seen it happen on multiple occasions and anybody who has used it for at least a month has seen it happen at least once. It doesn't happen everyday and I never said it happened often but it DOES happen and I believed it was due to the .NET framework. I can concede I could be wrong about the .NET but I've never seen that happen in robust C++ applications.
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If you are trying to get your product into the market place, it doesn't do you any good to try and put down others to bring yourself up. It just doesn't work that way. Let the market be the judge.
Listen I felt bad about what I said and honestly wanted to see if other traders had the same problems with TM I have. I did apologize for my comments and hoped that the thread would end or there'd be real discussion about it. Even if I didn't produce a competing product I probably would have made the same comment, I just wouldn't have apologized about it afterward. My goal is not to bad mouth Trade Maven, again I do like the program, they have some very cool ideas.
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The quickest way to get a bad reputation and sour anyone who may want to work with you is to try and primatively compete instead of creatively add value.
I agree and I had hoped my apology would have ended this. Once a post is up for over an hour you can't edit it so instead I wrote an apology.
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After browsing your site, many factually based, negative design comments could be made about your product, but that isn't our style.
Hey I am 100% open for any ideas or comments that can improve our product! Please post each and every negative comment about our product. If we agree with them we'll improve our product. In the end giving traders tools that help them improve their trading and make more money trading is our only focus. No program is 100% perfect and ours has issues we are working on improving as well as there are a slew of features we are working on adding now that aren't in any other program. I know I personally need to do a much better job creating more educational material.
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Notice how this is the first time anyone working for or associated with TM has ever posted to Elite Trader. This is because any vendor coming in and talking about his or her product looks desparate..like petty advertising.
I don't think its desperate to talk about trading tools that give traders an edge and providing educational training. I trade every day, we actually use our software to make money trading. I also have recently been video taping my trading live and posting the videos right after trading. I doubt anybody else has the confidence in their trading to expose themselves to public scrutiny. I with competing software companies would do the same, <b>if you can't make money with your OWN product and prove it than why should others use it?</b> I have shared about 10 trading methods and how people can use them to make money. Many of the strategies I've posted you don't need to use our software to implement. My main goal for posting is yes to get people to try our software but also equally high in my mind is to find new ideas to put into our software. We also develop black box trading systems and I am talking to a few traders now that I've met online to implement their trading strategies. Sharing strategies that work and helps improve people's trading leads them to share their ideas with me and my trading has improved by this process.
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You are the first one to cause people to call in and tell us that someone is BS'ing and incorrectly stating facts about TM. So hence the "TM BS Watcher" name & clarification of facts.
I hope you will learn from this and we wish you good luck..no hard feelings.
I feel the same way. I truly like your product, it has many features not found in most other trading platforms and it makes trading feel more 'intuitive' which I have only found in your application, ours, and custom studies I've programmed in Investor RT which I love.
Again I apologize for my post and wish I had not made it. I do like Trade Maven and would probably trade with it for futures if I didn't use our own software. One reasons I like our product better than anything else out there is because we started as a stock scanning and execution firm, I actually watch and use our advanced scans to let me see which stocks in the S&P eminis are strong, weak, above or below their first 30 min bar high/low, what their Volume% is (this lets me know in the first 10 mins of trading if today will be a trend day or sideways consolidation day) etc. These kind of 'market breadth' tools and our sector analysis tools aren't in any other program. They give me more confidence and if you watch my <a href="http://www.topgunsoftware.com/videotraining.html">live trading videos</a> you will see my market direction calls are close to 90% accurate. I'd love to see other people video tape their trading and give reasons for their thinking.
A true trader with a heart. Seems like you are also a trader in SGX-DT. Care to reveal.
