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[SunTrader]

Stick to F and GM. Your luck may come one day

Better my luck than yours - or Elon's lately.

Tweet, tweet:-

(The Daily Upside)

"The blue bird’s feathers are coated in so much debt it resembles a seabird after an oil spill.

With $13 billion worth of debt still hanging over his purchase of Twitter, Elon Musk is looking to raise $3 billion in equity capital, according to WSJ. Musk is reportedly telling potential investors that he can make the social media company break even on a cash flow basis by the end of 2023 thanks to massive job cuts and controversial new products like Twitter Blue. Fundraising efforts might be stepped up now that Musk is finally done testifying in his own actual trial over Tesla… and funding — provided of course he can pull himself away from his own social media platform long enough to do so."

 

[VicBee]

Better my luck than yours - or Elon's lately.

Tweet, tweet:-

(The Daily Upside)

"The blue bird’s feathers are coated in so much debt it resembles a seabird after an oil spill.

With $13 billion worth of debt still hanging over his purchase of Twitter, Elon Musk is looking to raise $3 billion in equity capital, according to WSJ. Musk is reportedly telling potential investors that he can make the social media company break even on a cash flow basis by the end of 2023 thanks to massive job cuts and controversial new products like Twitter Blue. Fundraising efforts might be stepped up now that Musk is finally done testifying in his own actual trial over Tesla… and funding — provided of course he can pull himself away from his own social media platform long enough to do so."

I see, so now you switch subject because Tesla is again and again beating expectations. You were all so endearing with your TSLA at $5.
I don't care for Twitter or Musk at Twitter. I'm a Tesla investor/trader.

 

[SunTrader]

I see, so now you switch subject because Tesla is again and again beating expectations. You were all so endearing with your TSLA at $5.
I don't care for Twitter or Musk at Twitter. I'm a Tesla investor/trader.

LOL me @ $5!!!! You got me confused with someone else. Talk about changing the subject fanboi.

 

[SunTrader]

Ford snags CR crown from GM in driver assistance rankings, Tesla ‘falls behind’ to 7th
Consumer Reports has released its latest rankings comparing the active driving assistance systems (ADAS) of EV automakers like Ford, GM, Rivian, and of course Tesla. The independent, non-profit consumer organization tested 12 different ADA systems broken down into five distinct categories in which it determined that Ford’s BlueCruise technology is the current industry leader, usurping General Motors’ Super Cruise. Tesla’s Autopilot, on the other hand, has tumbled off the podium into mediocrity.

The CR rankings released this morning are comprised of months of vehicle testing from Ford, Hyundai Motor Group, Tesla, and even our friends over at Toyota. As you’ll see below, not all ADAS are created equal.

At it’s core, the technology is a bolstered form of adaptive cruise control (ACC), that combines computer control of a vehicle’s brakes and acceleration with lane centering assistance (LCA) that also helps keep the vehicle a preset distance away from others in your lane.

No matter what flavor Kool-Aid you choose to drink, full self-driving technology still feels perpetually two years away (ask Elon Musk). In the meantime, however, some automakers on the list below have developed some truly impressive technology as the bridge between fully-attentive driving and not doing anything at all.

This sort of collaborative driving style may not be yet like an episode of The Jetsons, but it is still a marvel to experience in person and is becoming more and more common in passenger vehicles. According to CR’s data, ADA systems are already available on more than 50% of 2023 model-year vehicles – whether it’s an add-on or a standard feature.

Let’s start with the rankings and go from there to explain how Ford nabbed the top spot and Tesla fell to middle of the pack. Have a look.

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    Source: Consumer Reports

GM’s Super Cruise while Tesla, whose Autopilot sat in second place in 2020, dropped all the way to seventh. Consumer Reports explained that Ford and GM are leading the current pack because their systems also utilize direct driver monitoring systems (DDMS). These additional systems require drivers to keep their eyes on the road while the ADAS is activated, using infrared cameras on the driver’s face to alert them if they stop paying attention to the road.

Most other systems on this list have not yet integrated DDMS and simply require occasional hand pressure on the steering wheel to at least give the impression that the driver is paying attention. We’ve seen Tesla drivers share creative but utterly dangerous loopholes in Autopilot’s steering wheel requirement, rigging their EV to be “hands free.” The American automaker has since integrated the detection of cheating devices, but its driver monitoring leaves much to be desired. At least according to Consumer Reports, who has criticized the technology for years.

Top comment by Jacob Larsen
Liked by 21 people
We have 2 model 3s. I have full self-driving beta and my wife just as auto-pilot (not even enhanced AutoPilot). I paid $5k for FSD in 2019. If I could get $5k back to remove FSD, I would. That should tell you something. AP is good enough. FSD is sometimes cool, but it's not really great. I mostly have given up using it because it's too unpredictable.

I would like to try Ford and GM's advance driver assistance system because Tesla's requiring manual torque from my hands every few seconds is very annoying, and sometimes dangerous. I can have my hands on the wheel and be looking perfectly forward and the car will still start that incessant blue blinking waiting for me to jiggle the steering wheel. I've gotten used to it, but it would be SO much better if I could just leave my hands off the wheel and the system could make sure I am following with my eyes. In my view, the touched based version is indeed inferior to a system that tracks eye/attention. I think Consumer Reports got it right with this.

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The CR team pointed out that systems in both Tesla and Mercedes-Benz vehicles allowed highway driving for approximately 30 seconds before any audible warning was given to retake the wheel. The testing team stated that amount of time time equates to over half a mile of driving without hands on the wheel and without successfully ensuring the driver is even looking at the road.

The rankings display that Ford’s BlueCruise technology is newer and more technologically advanced than everyone else, including Tesla – whose Autopilot technology has seen added features, but has kept the same basic functionality since day one. CR’s senior director of auto testing Jake Fisher elaborated:

After all this time, Autopilot still doesn’t allow collaborative steering and doesn’t have an effective driver monitoring system. While other automakers have evolved their ACC and LCA systems, Tesla has simply fallen behind.

We were surprised to see Volvo ranked 11th out of 12, considering passenger safety is a huge selling point in its overall brand. The automaker has promised to deliver one of the safest EVs on the planet when its upcoming EX90 hits the market, so perhaps its ADAS will see some improvements as well. We already know it will have advanced driver monitoring and will be able to safely stop the vehicle should you become unconscious.

Ford, Tesla, and GM drivers, what do you think about these rankings?

https://electrek.co/2023/01/25/ford-gm-consumer-reports-driver-assistance-rankings-tesla/

 

[ElCubano]

I see, so now you switch subject because Tesla is again and again beating expectations. You were all so endearing with your TSLA at $5.
I don't care for Twitter or Musk at Twitter. I'm a Tesla investor/trader.

Part of the a** raping the stock took recently has been linked to elon trying to change the world with twitter. While you may not care I'm sure those holding a gazillion dollars in stock mind it a little.

 

[Cuddles]

I see, so now you switch subject because Tesla is again and again beating expectations. You were all so endearing with your TSLA at $5.
I don't care for Twitter or Musk at Twitter. I'm a Tesla investor/trader.

Wasn't long ago I suggested Musk wasn't going to please either spectrum of the political landscape, and suggested he would find a way for Twitter to force individuals to show who they are. Speech is only free when posters are held accountable for what they write. I'm very pleased with what he is doing.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/30...ification-elon-musk-blue-monthly-subscription

 

[VicBee]

Part of the a** raping the stock took recently has been linked to elon trying to change the world with twitter. While you may not care I'm sure those holding a gazillion dollars in stock mind it a little.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not happy at all that Musk got involved with Twitter and I'm among those who are convinced that he devalued the Tesla brand with his political rants and I said so in other posts. I do believe he will ultimately turn Twitter around and whatever it becomes will be a success, but I don't particularly care, my money is on Tesla.

 

[VicBee]

Ford snags CR crown from GM in driver assistance rankings, Tesla ‘falls behind’ to 7th
Consumer Reports has released its latest rankings comparing the active driving assistance systems (ADAS) of EV automakers like Ford, GM, Rivian, and of course Tesla. The independent, non-profit consumer organization tested 12 different ADA systems broken down into five distinct categories in which it determined that Ford’s BlueCruise technology is the current industry leader, usurping General Motors’ Super Cruise. Tesla’s Autopilot, on the other hand, has tumbled off the podium into mediocrity.

The CR rankings released this morning are comprised of months of vehicle testing from Ford, Hyundai Motor Group, Tesla, and even our friends over at Toyota. As you’ll see below, not all ADAS are created equal.

At it’s core, the technology is a bolstered form of adaptive cruise control (ACC), that combines computer control of a vehicle’s brakes and acceleration with lane centering assistance (LCA) that also helps keep the vehicle a preset distance away from others in your lane.

No matter what flavor Kool-Aid you choose to drink, full self-driving technology still feels perpetually two years away (ask Elon Musk). In the meantime, however, some automakers on the list below have developed some truly impressive technology as the bridge between fully-attentive driving and not doing anything at all.

This sort of collaborative driving style may not be yet like an episode of The Jetsons, but it is still a marvel to experience in person and is becoming more and more common in passenger vehicles. According to CR’s data, ADA systems are already available on more than 50% of 2023 model-year vehicles – whether it’s an add-on or a standard feature.

Let’s start with the rankings and go from there to explain how Ford nabbed the top spot and Tesla fell to middle of the pack. Have a look.

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    Source: Consumer Reports
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    Source: Consumer Reports

GM’s Super Cruise while Tesla, whose Autopilot sat in second place in 2020, dropped all the way to seventh. Consumer Reports explained that Ford and GM are leading the current pack because their systems also utilize direct driver monitoring systems (DDMS). These additional systems require drivers to keep their eyes on the road while the ADAS is activated, using infrared cameras on the driver’s face to alert them if they stop paying attention to the road.

Most other systems on this list have not yet integrated DDMS and simply require occasional hand pressure on the steering wheel to at least give the impression that the driver is paying attention. We’ve seen Tesla drivers share creative but utterly dangerous loopholes in Autopilot’s steering wheel requirement, rigging their EV to be “hands free.” The American automaker has since integrated the detection of cheating devices, but its driver monitoring leaves much to be desired. At least according to Consumer Reports, who has criticized the technology for years.

Top comment by Jacob Larsen
Liked by 21 people
We have 2 model 3s. I have full self-driving beta and my wife just as auto-pilot (not even enhanced AutoPilot). I paid $5k for FSD in 2019. If I could get $5k back to remove FSD, I would. That should tell you something. AP is good enough. FSD is sometimes cool, but it's not really great. I mostly have given up using it because it's too unpredictable.

I would like to try Ford and GM's advance driver assistance system because Tesla's requiring manual torque from my hands every few seconds is very annoying, and sometimes dangerous. I can have my hands on the wheel and be looking perfectly forward and the car will still start that incessant blue blinking waiting for me to jiggle the steering wheel. I've gotten used to it, but it would be SO much better if I could just leave my hands off the wheel and the system could make sure I am following with my eyes. In my view, the touched based version is indeed inferior to a system that tracks eye/attention. I think Consumer Reports got it right with this.

View all comments
The CR team pointed out that systems in both Tesla and Mercedes-Benz vehicles allowed highway driving for approximately 30 seconds before any audible warning was given to retake the wheel. The testing team stated that amount of time time equates to over half a mile of driving without hands on the wheel and without successfully ensuring the driver is even looking at the road.

The rankings display that Ford’s BlueCruise technology is newer and more technologically advanced than everyone else, including Tesla – whose Autopilot technology has seen added features, but has kept the same basic functionality since day one. CR’s senior director of auto testing Jake Fisher elaborated:

After all this time, Autopilot still doesn’t allow collaborative steering and doesn’t have an effective driver monitoring system. While other automakers have evolved their ACC and LCA systems, Tesla has simply fallen behind.

We were surprised to see Volvo ranked 11th out of 12, considering passenger safety is a huge selling point in its overall brand. The automaker has promised to deliver one of the safest EVs on the planet when its upcoming EX90 hits the market, so perhaps its ADAS will see some improvements as well. We already know it will have advanced driver monitoring and will be able to safely stop the vehicle should you become unconscious.

Ford, Tesla, and GM drivers, what do you think about these rankings?

https://electrek.co/2023/01/25/ford-gm-consumer-reports-driver-assistance-rankings-tesla/

Let me help you parse media bias against Tesla so you don't have to continuously point to them for validation. I won't respond because it would take too long for me to write detailed enough rebuttals for the other side of the argument. I don't expect you or other Tesla haters care to consider the other side when evaluating your stock picks. You don't have to buy TSLA and the stock price speaks for itself, either way. This last week it was up 60% right after quite a few spoke of $5 price and Tesla is done for and the competition is here and now.

Strong anti Tesla bias media from day 1:
Consumers Report (union support)
Edmunds (depends on the traditional industry)
Seeking Alpha (incompetence)
Axios (no idea why)
All traditional auto media (of course)

There are likely a few more but I don't come across them enough to recall who they are.

 

[SunTrader]

So now you are lumping all of us with the one particular poster who talked of $5/share. And the media is all out to get fanbois and Elon. Haha how convenient. While ignoring all the diversions and yuuge selling by Musk.

Whatever makes you happy. How many more big days, or is it weeks, do you need to really get above water?

Stop with blame game and ... use a stop in the future.

 

[Rams Fan]

You were all so endearing with your TSLA at $5.

TSLA going to $5. I said rallies and short squeezes would be part of the deal.

I am beginning to waver on the SPX making one final try to undercut its October low.