If Hindenburg Research ever gets TSLA in it's crosshairs ... oh baby it won't be pretty. Surprised TWTR hasn't drawn their wrath - yet. Although they thought at the time Elon was going to get a better takeover price.
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They wouldn't be the first in line
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Ford snags CR crown from GM in driver assistance rankings, Tesla ‘falls behind’ to 7th
Consumer Reports has released its latest rankings comparing the active driving assistance systems (ADAS) of EV automakers like Ford, GM, Rivian, and of course Tesla. The independent, non-profit consumer organization tested 12 different ADA systems broken down into five distinct categories in which it determined that Ford’s BlueCruise technology is the current industry leader, usurping General Motors’ Super Cruise. Tesla’s Autopilot, on the other hand, has tumbled off the podium into mediocrity.
The CR rankings released this morning are comprised of months of vehicle testing from Ford, Hyundai Motor Group, Tesla, and even our friends over at Toyota. As you’ll see below, not all ADAS are created equal.
At it’s core, the technology is a bolstered form of adaptive cruise control (ACC), that combines computer control of a vehicle’s brakes and acceleration with lane centering assistance (LCA) that also helps keep the vehicle a preset distance away from others in your lane.
No matter what flavor Kool-Aid you choose to drink, full self-driving technology still feels perpetually two years away (ask Elon Musk). In the meantime, however, some automakers on the list below have developed some truly impressive technology as the bridge between fully-attentive driving and not doing anything at all.
This sort of collaborative driving style may not be yet like an episode of The Jetsons, but it is still a marvel to experience in person and is becoming more and more common in passenger vehicles. According to CR’s data, ADA systems are already available on more than 50% of 2023 model-year vehicles – whether it’s an add-on or a standard feature.
Let’s start with the rankings and go from there to explain how Ford nabbed the top spot and Tesla fell to middle of the pack. Have a look.
GM’s Super Cruise while Tesla, whose Autopilot sat in second place in 2020, dropped all the way to seventh. Consumer Reports explained that Ford and GM are leading the current pack because their systems also utilize direct driver monitoring systems (DDMS). These additional systems require drivers to keep their eyes on the road while the ADAS is activated, using infrared cameras on the driver’s face to alert them if they stop paying attention to the road.
Source: Consumer Reports
Source: Consumer Reports
Most other systems on this list have not yet integrated DDMS and simply require occasional hand pressure on the steering wheel to at least give the impression that the driver is paying attention. We’ve seen Tesla drivers share creative but utterly dangerous loopholes in Autopilot’s steering wheel requirement, rigging their EV to be “hands free.” The American automaker has since integrated the detection of cheating devices, but its driver monitoring leaves much to be desired. At least according to Consumer Reports, who has criticized the technology for years.
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We have 2 model 3s. I have full self-driving beta and my wife just as auto-pilot (not even enhanced AutoPilot). I paid $5k for FSD in 2019. If I could get $5k back to remove FSD, I would. That should tell you something. AP is good enough. FSD is sometimes cool, but it's not really great. I mostly have given up using it because it's too unpredictable.
I would like to try Ford and GM's advance driver assistance system because Tesla's requiring manual torque from my hands every few seconds is very annoying, and sometimes dangerous. I can have my hands on the wheel and be looking perfectly forward and the car will still start that incessant blue blinking waiting for me to jiggle the steering wheel. I've gotten used to it, but it would be SO much better if I could just leave my hands off the wheel and the system could make sure I am following with my eyes. In my view, the touched based version is indeed inferior to a system that tracks eye/attention. I think Consumer Reports got it right with this.
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The CR team pointed out that systems in both Tesla and Mercedes-Benz vehicles allowed highway driving for approximately 30 seconds before any audible warning was given to retake the wheel. The testing team stated that amount of time time equates to over half a mile of driving without hands on the wheel and without successfully ensuring the driver is even looking at the road.
The rankings display that Ford’s BlueCruise technology is newer and more technologically advanced than everyone else, including Tesla – whose Autopilot technology has seen added features, but has kept the same basic functionality since day one. CR’s senior director of auto testing Jake Fisher elaborated:
After all this time, Autopilot still doesn’t allow collaborative steering and doesn’t have an effective driver monitoring system. While other automakers have evolved their ACC and LCA systems, Tesla has simply fallen behind.
We were surprised to see Volvo ranked 11th out of 12, considering passenger safety is a huge selling point in its overall brand. The automaker has promised to deliver one of the safest EVs on the planet when its upcoming EX90 hits the market, so perhaps its ADAS will see some improvements as well. We already know it will have advanced driver monitoring and will be able to safely stop the vehicle should you become unconscious.
Ford, Tesla, and GM drivers, what do you think about these rankings?
https://electrek.co/2023/01/25/ford-gm-consumer-reports-driver-assistance-rankings-tesla/
It's ok to have opinions, no? I was clear that my only financial interest is Tesla.
You two are like peas in a pod...
sure, I'm not pointing out your opinions, rather your contradictions.
The "calling out bullshit from bullshitters" pod needs more peas.
Came across this last night on another trading/investing forum under the topic of "Drones, Autonomous Vehicles and Flying Cars". And just like that poster I include it without commentary. No need to.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/27/e...ted-by-the-sec-for-tesla-self-driving-claims/
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Elon Musk is being investigated by the SEC for Tesla self-driving claims, report says
Darrell Etherington@etherington / 4:46 PM EST•January 27, 2023
Image Credits: Tesla
Tesla CEO Elon Musk is facing scrutiny by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) regarding his specific comments and efforts to promote the automaker’s claims regarding its “self-driving” capabilities, Bloomberg reports. The SEC investigation into Musk is part of its overall efforts to determine whether Tesla has run afoul of its rules in promoting its FSD and Autopilot offering.
The SEC doesn’t typically comment on any ongoing investigations prior to formally filing suit, and has not commented on this case in particular. But recent revelations may explain why Musk is in their crosshairs when it comes to Tesla “self-driving” technology: Last week, testimony given by a senior engineer on the Tesla team working on its Autopilot software revealed that a video the company released in 2016 purporting to show a Tesla vehicle driving itself was in fact staged. Reporting by Bloomberg later revealed that the video was overseen and directed by Musk himself.
Of course, the SEC’s domain isn’t safety claims, but it does take issue with public companies or company executive officers making forward-looking claims that are false or misleading. That’s apparently what they’re concerned about here — Musk has often suggested FSD would attain essentially driver-free navigation capabilities in timelines that have not ended up proving accurate.
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Based on what the SEC determines following its investigation, we could see lawsuits or other consequences for Musk, including limitations on his future activity as an officer of a public company if they choose to pursue enforcement of any violations they find.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/27/e...ted-by-the-sec-for-tesla-self-driving-claims/
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Elon Musk is being investigated by the SEC for Tesla self-driving claims, report says
Darrell Etherington@etherington / 4:46 PM EST•January 27, 2023
Image Credits: Tesla
Tesla CEO Elon Musk is facing scrutiny by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) regarding his specific comments and efforts to promote the automaker’s claims regarding its “self-driving” capabilities, Bloomberg reports. The SEC investigation into Musk is part of its overall efforts to determine whether Tesla has run afoul of its rules in promoting its FSD and Autopilot offering.
The SEC doesn’t typically comment on any ongoing investigations prior to formally filing suit, and has not commented on this case in particular. But recent revelations may explain why Musk is in their crosshairs when it comes to Tesla “self-driving” technology: Last week, testimony given by a senior engineer on the Tesla team working on its Autopilot software revealed that a video the company released in 2016 purporting to show a Tesla vehicle driving itself was in fact staged. Reporting by Bloomberg later revealed that the video was overseen and directed by Musk himself.
Of course, the SEC’s domain isn’t safety claims, but it does take issue with public companies or company executive officers making forward-looking claims that are false or misleading. That’s apparently what they’re concerned about here — Musk has often suggested FSD would attain essentially driver-free navigation capabilities in timelines that have not ended up proving accurate.
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Based on what the SEC determines following its investigation, we could see lawsuits or other consequences for Musk, including limitations on his future activity as an officer of a public company if they choose to pursue enforcement of any violations they find.
I have no problem with that. I'm personally no fan of FSD, beta or not. I like to drive my cars and don't want it to drive me. I don't use the speed control thing that's been around for decades and don't drive automatics.Came across this last night on another trading/investing forum under the topic of "Drones, Autonomous Vehicles and Flying Cars". And just like that poster I include it without commentary. No need to.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/27/e...ted-by-the-sec-for-tesla-self-driving-claims/
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Elon Musk is being investigated by the SEC for Tesla self-driving claims, report says
Darrell Etherington@etherington / 4:46 PM EST•January 27, 2023
Image Credits: Tesla
Tesla CEO Elon Musk is facing scrutiny by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) regarding his specific comments and efforts to promote the automaker’s claims regarding its “self-driving” capabilities, Bloomberg reports. The SEC investigation into Musk is part of its overall efforts to determine whether Tesla has run afoul of its rules in promoting its FSD and Autopilot offering.
The SEC doesn’t typically comment on any ongoing investigations prior to formally filing suit, and has not commented on this case in particular. But recent revelations may explain why Musk is in their crosshairs when it comes to Tesla “self-driving” technology: Last week, testimony given by a senior engineer on the Tesla team working on its Autopilot software revealed that a video the company released in 2016 purporting to show a Tesla vehicle driving itself was in fact staged. Reporting by Bloomberg later revealed that the video was overseen and directed by Musk himself.
Of course, the SEC’s domain isn’t safety claims, but it does take issue with public companies or company executive officers making forward-looking claims that are false or misleading. That’s apparently what they’re concerned about here — Musk has often suggested FSD would attain essentially driver-free navigation capabilities in timelines that have not ended up proving accurate.
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Building trust with your customers is a crucial competitive advantage in today’s digital economy. Learn how intentional innovation and trusted technologies deliver for your customers and bottom line.
Based on what the SEC determines following its investigation, we could see lawsuits or other consequences for Musk, including limitations on his future activity as an officer of a public company if they choose to pursue enforcement of any violations they find.