Surf's Special Situation Journal

marketsurfer · Oct 25, 2012

Quote from cornixforex:

No, he's the person way beyond the expertise of any shrink, he's Irish.

If seriously, he's my good friend who helped me quite a lot when I was yet struggling to become consistent several years ago. I witnessed and witness what he does for years and he witnesses what I do, so we have a lot of information about each other hence some "inside" jokes.

I see, thanks.

surf

cornix · Oct 25, 2012

Quote from marketsurfer:

Complexity of the data input? Sounds like a cop out. It;s the market not astrophysics. It only does several things.

You obviously believe in Science as a valid method-- why do you shirk from science when it comes to your own market beliefs? There are edges in the market, but the things you folks are talking about are mysticism and belief--- not an edge. surf

I'll continue my questions-- why is TA heavily taught by Forex Dealers who profit when you lose? Why is TA not taught in prop shops as a prime method if at all? Prop shops profit if you profit so they teach real edge, Forex dealers profit when you lose so they teach TA. I can not believe this isn't obvious to you.

surf

Simple answer: my own experience is the proof. Yes I believe in science, after all 5 generations of my ancestors were scientists. But there is no such thing as "science" in the sense there only are people, scientists.

And when some people say X is impossible while I look and see it clearly exists, what should I do? Question my sanity?

P. S. TA in the way I trade it was never taught by forex dealers at least I've never heard of it. I trade much as Vic Sperandeo described in his books with some of my own experience and insights from other practicing traders.

P. P. S. Yes it's the market and not astrophysics which doesn't mean there can't be complex input of data. When you just drive a car you also process input of data way beyond the abilities of any computer.

marketsurfer · Oct 25, 2012

Quote from cornixforex:

Simple answer: my own experience is the proof. Yes I believe in science, after all 5 generations of my ancestors were scientists. But there is no such thing as "science" in the sense there only are people, scientists.

And when some people say X is impossible while I look and see it clearly exists, what should I do? Question my sanity?

P. S. TA in the way I trade it was never taught by forex dealers at least I've never heard of it. I trade much as Vic Sperandeo described in his books with some of my own experience and insights from other practicing traders.

Interesting-- I am married to a Russian PhD-- I have learned that your educational system, at least pre college, is superior to the U.S. since a full understanding of the subject is demanded rather than just enough to pass the test....

R. Raskolnikov · Oct 25, 2012

Sarcastic? How would I know...you provided no context for the sarcasm. No emoticon, no explanation...nothing. Ok, you were joking, fine. I'll move on from that.

Quote from marketsurfer:

PS-- i was being sarcastic with the term big bucks----

cornix · Oct 25, 2012

Quote from marketsurfer:

Interesting-- I am married to a Russian PhD-- I have learned that your educational system, at least pre college, is superior to the U.S. since a full understanding of the subject is demanded rather than just enough to pass the test....

Unfortunately they turn to the testing system as well, which I heard is already criticized on the West.

When I was a student we didn't have tests yet indeed, but complex exams in the form of talk with professor about the topic as a whole.

marketsurfer · Oct 25, 2012

Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

Sarcastic? How would I know...you provided no context for the sarcasm. No emoticon, you explanation...nothing. Ok, you were joking, fine. I'll move on from that.

You wouldn't. My fault-- but i did think it was obvious that a radio sidekick wouldn't be paid "big bucks".

marketsurfer · Oct 25, 2012

Quote from cornixforex:

Unfortunately they turn to the testing system as well, which I heard is already criticized on the West.

When I was a student we didn't have tests yet indeed, but complex exams in the form of talk with professor about the topic as a whole.

Her PhD is from a top tier U.S. school-- but early ed was in the Soviet Union-- the complex exams sound familiar even in the early grades... they want to make sure you KNOW the subject-- at least they did.

surf

cornix · Oct 25, 2012

Quote from marketsurfer:

Her PhD is from a top tier U.S. school-- but early ed was in the Soviet Union-- the complex exams sound familiar even in the early grades... they want to make sure you KNOW the subject-- at least they did.

surf

Also, the atmosphere of less mechanical communication with the professor I believe gives the student a lot of invaluable information inputs (as we speak of those today) starting from cultural habits of intelligent people and ending with feeling how professionals think about the topic in the process of discussion and asking questions about it.

Me and my wife (she's a shrink too) both agree years in the university were a treasure of interaction with bright people as much as they were an education itself.

marketsurfer · Oct 25, 2012

Quote from cornixforex:

Unfortunately they turn to the testing system as well, which I heard is already criticized on the West.

When I was a student we didn't have tests yet indeed, but complex exams in the form of talk with professor about the topic as a whole.

With that said, why do you think psychs like Dr. Brett and statistic and economic PhD's like Nied&hoffer don't put any credence in TA? These folks have worked with 100's of traders and are hands on practioners--- how about James Altucher? He is very anti TA--

why do you think this is?

surf

marketsurfer · Oct 25, 2012

Quote from cornixforex:

Also, the atmosphere of less mechanical communication with the professor I believe gives the student a lot of invaluable information inputs (as we speak of those today) starting from cultural habits of intelligent people and ending with feeling how professionals think about the topic in the process of discussion and asking questions about it.

Me and my wife (she's a shrink too) both agree years in the university were a treasure of interaction with bright people as much as they were an education itself.

Yeah, I don't disagree, well stated. I am part of an educated circle of market practioners here on the east coast US-- i am one of the few without a PhD or heavy credentials--- You ever make it to NYC, I'll be happy to introduce you-- unless you are afraid of having your mind opened about the reality of TA. surf