Supreme court upholds voter ID law, disenfranchising native Americans in ND

[gwb-trading]

Yes, dismiss the Hovland quote, the judge that issued the initial stay, or the many sources littering the article.

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So in other news a fact-free leftist fringe website full of liberal narrative that ignores the actual facts. Go it.

 

[Cuddles]

So in other news a fact-free leftist fringe website full of liberal narrative that ignores the actual facts. Go it.

Beats unsubstantiated opinions on a forum w/no sources whatsoever.

 

[gwb-trading]

Beats unsubstantiated opinions on a forum w/no sources whatsoever.

Why don't you go to primary sources like the U.S. Census site to get real facts instead of relying on fringe narrative sites.

 

[Cuddles]

Why don't you go to primary sources like the U.S. Census site to get real facts instead of relying on fringe narrative sites.

I specially liked reading the proof and sources you've presented. And no, the fed mandating requirements for Census purposes doesn't count towards voting purposes.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

On October 9, the US Supreme Court denied NARF’s emergency application to stop the State of North Dakota from implementing a discriminatory voter ID law. After the District Court found the law had a disproportionate and discriminatory effect on Native voters, the Eighth Circuit issued an opinion overturning the Court-ordered relief. In so doing, the Eighth Circuit changed the identification laws on the eve of the election and after early voting already had begun. The majority of Supreme Court justices decided to allow the Eighth Circuit decision to stand. However, Justices Ginsburg and Kagan noted in their dissent that:

The risk of voter confusion appears severe here because the injunction against requiring residential-address identification was in force during the primary election and because the Secretary of State’s website announced for months the ID requirements as they existed under that injunction.

Now, voters in North Dakota may find when they go to the polls in November that the voter ID that they used in the primary just a few months earlier is no longer accepted because it does not include their current residential address. In this case, Native American voters will be especially affected because they often lack residential street addresses because their homes do not have addresses on them by no fault of their own.

According to NARF Staff Attorney Jacqueline De León, “Access to voting should not be dependent on whether one lives in a city or on a reservation. The District Court in North Dakota has found this voter identification law to be discriminatory; nothing in the law has changed since that finding. North Dakota Native American voters will now have to vote under a system that unfairly burdens them more than other voters. We will continue to fight this discriminatory law.”

With the Supreme Court decision, and as we head into an election, North Dakota is able to enact a voter identification law that will take away the opportunity to vote for thousands of Native American United States citizens. NARF will continue to fight this law and invites any North Dakotan Native American who encounters problems voting to contact us at vote@narf.org.

Yup, you properly cited Ginsburg's dissent with which Kagan agreed.

But there are no reliable swing votes now, and the conservatives/moderates are in the majority.

SO START GETTING USED TO CITING MINORITY OPINIONS, for what they are worth.

Elections have consequences. Oh, and not to forget that it is not all about the Supreme Court Trump and Mitch have put about 80 lower court judges in place and probably another 50 coming. in that range anyway. So a lot more lower court decisions will not even reach the supreme court.

On the plus side. Heidi Hietcamp is going to lose by a fairly large amount in North Dakota such that the native vote would not have been able to save her. So those who dont like the way the courts ruled on this may still be disappointed but I dont think Heidi is going to be able to do the Hillary routine where she argues that she was cheated out of a victory.

 

[Tsing Tao]

1st they wanted to make sure you were a citizen
Then they wanted to make sure you were you
Now they want to make sure you're a land owner.
Next they'll want to make sure you're a right leaning Aryan.

No one said anything about having to own land. Making sure someone is a citizen and who they say they are is the whole point of having identification.

The rest of your statement is completely hyperbolic.

 

[Cuddles]

No one said anything about having to own land. Making sure someone is a citizen and who they say they are is the whole point of having identification.

The rest of your statement is completely hyperbolic.

Yes it's hyperbole except they're demanding a "valid address" to vote which goes beyond simple identification.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Yes it's hyperbole except they're demanding a "valid address" to vote which goes beyond simple identification.

A valid address isn't being a property owner, just so we're clear. If you want to go after the valid address issue, which I am not informed enough to say is or is not an issue, at least be honest about the facts.

 

[Cuddles]

A valid address isn't being a property owner, just so we're clear. If you want to go after the valid address issue, which I am not informed enough to say is or is not an issue, at least be honest about the facts.

That's not how hyperbole works

 

[Cuddles]

So if the guys do not build to code, they don't get an address, and if they want to vote, they risk their household getting condemned? Gotta hand it to these cons, their cruelty has no bounds.

https://www.co.ward.nd.us/453/911-Coordinator

Request for 911 Address:
If you are requesting a new 911 address, they are issued in conjunction with the building permit. Please visit the Ward County Building Inspection Department for an application.