Supreme Court to Overturn Roe v. Wade

[Tony Stark]

I wish the media start putting attention on that selfish bitch Ginsbergs part in this. Dems begged that selfish bitch to step down during Obamas term so he could replace her but she put the attention she loved being a libriel legend above the people and ending up doing as much damage as Mitch and Trump.

 

[exGOPer]

We often discuss liberalism and conservatism from political philosophy instead of government philosophy. Even right wingers take for granted we are a small L liberal democracy, where the rights of the minority and the individual were protected.
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That's just sophistry.

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

 

[CaptainObvious]

So owning a gun is a priviledge not a right by your definition.

got it

Yes, it is just that, a privilege. They can take it away it's not a right and there are many in power who would do just that. We have no rights, only the privileges our authorities give us.

 

[UsualName]

That's just sophistry.

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

If you say so but I don’t think so. I think many people on the right have taken for granted they live in a liberal democracy and actually won’t like what in your face oppression looks like.

 

[gwb-trading]

We’ll hate to say I told so, Susan Collins, but I told you so.

Collins: Draft Roe decision ‘completely inconsistent’ with what Gorsuch, Kavanaugh said
https://thehill.com/news/3475255-co...nsistent-with-what-gorsuch-kavanaugh-told-me/

 

[gwb-trading]

 

[piezoe]

Paraphrasing George Carlin, If the government can grant them or take them away, you don't have rights, you have privileges. It's not situational dummies, you have them or you don't, and you don't.

I have argued that the right of a women to an abortion if she so chooses is inalienable. If I am right than the government can not take that right away.

 

[Mercor]

I have argued that the right of a women to an abortion if she so chooses is inalienable. If I am right than the government can not take that right away.

The sticking point is when do the rights of the fetus (person) become inalienable, (created with)

 

[Bugenhagen]

There is a solution which would have been within our reach a decade ago.

Transplantation of the embryo to an artificial womb allowing both their seperate existence and so "rights".

The loudest crickets you will ever hear start when you raise this with conservatives.

 

[piezoe]

So owning a gun is a priviledge not a right by your definition.

got it

Interestingly, Scalia, based on English law, argued that "owning a gun" was an inalienable right and therefore did not require mention specifically in the U.S. Constitution. It was a right you had that could not be taken away. This was a help in Scalia's jettisoning of the inconvenient preface before the comma in the Second Amendment. Scalia's argument was accepted as a part of the Court's Majority opinion in Heller, which Scalia wrote. Heller had to do with whether the government could require that an orherwise working firearm in the home it must be kept in an inoperable state, such as with a trigger lock. The Court ruled that this was too restrictive and that if you had the right to own a firearm and keep it in your home that you could not be required to keep it in an inoperable state. This is also a ruling in which the right of the government to regulate some types of firearms was affirmed.