strike on iraq

Originally posted by max401


I think you are a teller of tall tales and have more than one alias on this forum.

A more accurate statement for you would be: "I have nothing to prove it to you."
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You are right Max. I am totally full of shit. I am every alias there is. I am Superego, I am Fasterpussycat. I am MrSubliminal. I am Dotslashfuture. I am Gordon Gekko and Aphie too. And absolutely VVV. I am only 21 years old, so I could not have been in Vietnam. I am gay, so I have no wife, and therefore, Outlaw couldn't possibly be my brother in law. I have never been in Europe, because I don't even have a passport. I have no way to prove anything to you because it is all lies. I should be ashamed of myself. I don't even trade stocks. I don't know what the symbol for IBM is. I am not a jew, I am actually an orphan with no heritage. I am not literate, and I have a ghostwriter typing for me for his own unspeakable motives. I am not a liberal or conservative, because I am not allowed to vote due to the fact that I am a convicted felon. A pedophile no less!

And if I could change anything about me (obviously it would be everything), the very first thing I would change would be my whole existence. I would want to be just like you. Or maybe Dotslash. I can't decide, but one of you for sure. If I had a nickle, I would flip it and decide that way. But I have no money, so I can't even do that. Oh, I used to be Don Bright also. But someone bought that alias off me so I could buy a bag of Puppy Chow and not starve for that week when my welfare check got lost.

Thanks for exposing me. Max, you are a wonderful guy.

(Here is a secret for the rest of you.....I am really Max too).

Rs7, and the rest of us.
 
Originally posted by rs7

You are right Max. I am totally full of shit. I am every alias there is. I am Superego, I am Fasterpussycat. I am MrSubliminal. I am Dotslashfuture. I am Gordon Gekko and Aphie too. And absolutely VVV. I am only 21 years old, so I could not have been in Vietnam. I am gay, so I have no wife, and therefore, Outlaw couldn't possibly be my brother in law. I have never been in Europe, because I don't even have a passport. I have no way to prove anything to you because it is all lies. I should be ashamed of myself. I don't even trade stocks. I don't know what the symbol for IBM is. I am not a jew, I am actually an orphan with no heritage. I am not literate, and I have a ghostwriter typing for me for his own unspeakable motives. I am not a liberal or conservative, because I am not allowed to vote due to the fact that I am a convicted felon. A pedophile no less!

And if I could change anything about me (obviously it would be everything), the very first thing I would change would be my whole existence. I would want to be just like you. Or maybe Dotslash. I can't decide, but one of you for sure. If I had a nickle, I would flip it and decide that way. But I have no money, so I can't even do that. Oh, I used to be Don Bright also. But someone bought that alias off me so I could buy a bag of Puppy Chow and not starve for that week when my welfare check got lost.

Thanks for exposing me. Max, you are a wonderful guy.

(Here is a secret for the rest of you.....I am really Max too).

Rs7, and the rest of us.
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The above answer is typical of someone who has been caught in his own web and run out of excuses.

Rs7, you debase the coinage of deceit.
 
rs7, don't mind max, our fruitcake in residence.

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The national economy of the US including state, corporate and private households, have a total debt of $30,000 Billion, almost 3 times as much as GDP, costing us $2000 Billion in interest p.a., basically equal to all new credits taken up in recent years, then you get the picture.

Percentage of US children who live in poverty: 20%
(U.S. Census Bureau, 2000)

Number of families or primary individuals who live in mobile homes or trailers: 6.8 million
(U.S. Census Bureau, American Housing Survey, 1999)

A survey of 26 industrialized nations (the Luxembourg Income Study) found that the gap between the wealthiest 10% and the poorest 10% is greater in the United States than any other country except Russia (Wallechinsky 6).

Real weekly wages in the U.S. rose until 1973, and have been declining since.

How the USA Stacks Up
Among the 21 most affluent nations, the United States has the highest percentage of poor children. In fact, our rate is twice that of the country next in line.

In 1996, millions more Americans lived in poverty than in 1964. A 1996 Fordham University report says the country's social well-being has reached its lowest point in a quarter century, with children and young people suffering most.

plus, no health and pension insurance for millions of americans.

but, never mind, our political idiots in washington, unlike many from the military, diplomacy and the intelligence services, want to detract from our national problems, so they're doing the time honored thing: go start a war, never mind the costs, economic, in terms of human lives wasted for nothing, and political fallout.

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the speech gore should have given, but never did:

Gore as You’ve Never Heard Him

The American economy is dead in the water, and the Bush administration’s loose war talk during the summer only made things worse

NEWSWEEK

Oct. 7 issue — In the end most Democrats will support the president on Iraq. But they will get there kicking and screaming, reminding the public of their internal conflicts and ambivalence about the use of American power abroad. Perhaps more strangely, the Democrats are endlessly debating a topic that President Bush is delighted to discuss. What they are not talking about is the issue that traditionally decides American elections—the economy.

AL GORE’S SPEECH TO the Commonwealth Club last week was intelligent, but ultimately about tactics, not strategy. Gore believes that Saddam Hussein is a growing threat to the United States and the world—and one that must be dealt with, using force if necessary. But he dislikes the manner and sequence in which the president is conducting policy. That makes for a column, not a campaign. Here is the speech that Al Gore should have given:



“Three weeks ago President Bush addressed the United Nations about the urgent need for the disarmament of Iraq. As one of only 10 Democratic senators who supported the gulf war in 1991, I have long believed that Saddam Hussein is a threat to the region and the world. I fully support the president’s efforts to get United Nations inspectors back into Iraq for unfettered, unconditional inspections.

“But what worries me as much as the Middle East is the Middle West.

The American economy is dead in the water and the administration seems not to have noticed. Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill confidently tells us that the economy is poised for a recovery, as he told us six months ago, as he told us a year ago. But the reality is stark. Every day we hear of a new round of layoffs, a new bout of cost-cutting, a new set of economic numbers—all worse than expected. Profits and business investment have fallen more sharply than at any point since the Great Depression. This year the average American household’s net worth will decline for the third year running, which has not happened since World War II. The traditional optimism of Americans is being replaced by nervousness and gloom.

“The key force holding back economic growth today is uncertainty: uncertainty about the future, about the war and about chaos in its wake. The administration’s loose war talk over the summer has made matters much worse. As officials publicly feuded, leaked battle plans and bragged that America would go it alone in this vast undertaking, fears of a costly war with political and economic spillover have made businesses wary of new investment and sent oil prices shooting up. The price of oil has risen 45 percent in the last six months and it is likely to keep going up. Without a war, we have already had an oil shock—a stealth oil shock, whose effects will be felt by the American people over the next year.

“While alienating our democratic allies in Europe and Asia, the administration has spoken of its close relationship with Saudi Arabia and other key oil-producing states. Yet at the OPEC meetings in Osaka last week, these same governments thumbed their noses at America and announced that they would keep oil prices artificially high. Not only is this shortsighted but it is a hostile act against the Western world.

“We need a new economic strategy for America. Our economy is in grave danger of deflation—falling prices, profits and incomes. The first line of defense is the Federal Reserve, which we must hope will do what is necessary. Its own research about the lessons learned from Japan’s mistakes suggests the grave danger of waiting too long and acting too weakly. Second, the secretary of the Treasury should announce that we no longer support a strong dollar. A fall in the value of the dollar would boost American exports and force reform in other countries. Finally, the government must prime the economic pump. As unemployment mounts we must raise unemployment insurance so as to help the more than 8 million Americans who have been stranded in this bust. It is the right thing to do for them and will also act as a powerful stimulus to the economy. Further actions, such as targeted tax relief for middle-class families, should be considered, but within the context of long-term fiscal stability.

“One of the factors that has fed uncertainty is this administration’s lack of credibility on the federal budget. In two years we have gone from record surpluses back to Reagan-era deficits. The president has been undisciplined in both his taxation and his spending policies, raising the prospects of large, structural deficits. The secretary of the Treasury has become a public embarrassment, his every statement causing jitters in the financial markets and anxiety among ordinary Americans. The discipline and sobriety of the Clinton-Gore years has been replaced by reckless ideology.

“Every day that we wait, the crisis worsens, more Americans lose their jobs, their savings and their hope. There are costs to any actions that we will take but there are far greater costs to inaction. God bless you and God bless America.”

http://www.msnbc.com/news/814575.asp?cp1=1

brent scowcroft, national security advisor to presidents gerald ford & george bush senior:
Don't Attack Saddam
It would undermine our antiterror efforts
http://www.opinionjournal.com/edito...ml?id=110002133
 
Originally posted by rs7
I owe an explanation here. "Outlaw" is a play on the word "inlaw"....Outlaw is my brother in law, and my best friend. He just sold his business, and is going to begin trading with me. Yesterday while I was firing up the barbecue, he logged on to my computer. You can see in his post that he took some brotherly type ball busting shots at me. Implying I was a scatterbrain and not as much of an intellectual as others who post here (which is obviously very true).

I did not realize that when I went to answer his (Outlaw's) post very late last night that ET was still logged on under his name. So now I suppose that Secco decided I was a sicko. Having a dialogue with myself. I can see how it could appear that way. After I saw what happened, I deleted the post, so now it would appear that seccos comment is out of the blue. But at the time he posted this, my response to Outlaw was still standing, and so seccos' impression was understandable. My apologies!
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Outlaw started posting on 6-21-02. The rs7 post above, was made on 7-03-02. Outlaw's last post was 7-02-02. After the the gaffe of using the wrong alias on the same day, all of a sudden, Outlaw never posted again.

2nd Outlaw post: "when I was trading "commodities" in vietnam on a daily basis, was I a day trader then?" Sound like the familiar "combat wannabee?"

This Outlaw post is practically prima facie of an rs7 alias: "And no offense, but RS, you seem to know the most about trading."

The Smoking Gun:

Rs7 is an admitted user of aliases: "However, I will admit to using another alias lately."

From rs7's "excuse" post:

"I did not realize that when I went to answer his (Outlaw's) post very late last night that ET was still logged on under his name. So now I suppose that Secco decided I was a sicko. Having a dialogue with myself. I can see how it could appear that way. After I saw what happened, I deleted the post"

Secco's post was at 1:33 AM 7-03. That means that rs7 saw his "Outlaw" gaffe around the same time and deleted it. Yet strangely, even though he was on ET at 1:33+ AM, he makes no post whatsoever under rs7 until 7:27 AM.

Other poster opinions:

Goldenarm 7-9-02: "How come RS7, Lavish and Mr. Not An Alias write suspiciously like the same person?"

commisso 7-09-02: "Rs7, Beat it bro... You and your 37 aliases are starting to get pretty tired!!!"

Secco 7-11-02: you seem like a FAKE......oh and how's your brother-OUTLAW??? get off it dude.......you ain't got nothing to tell us.......just starving for attention that's what i think... gotta say you are acting like a L.O.S.E.R...

Commisso 7-11-02: "I had to come out of ET retirement just to tell you that you are one sad sad sad case Rs7. I am sorry that you have allowed ET to do this to you, as a friend I sincerely advise you to step away from the computer and go read a book or something, please Rs for you own well being!"
 
Originally posted by aphexcoil
How about you and your aliases? The shit is starting to really smell foul in here! Pot-Kettle-Black?
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Hah! I wouldn't dilute my notoriety with an alias. Go ahead and "find" one and tell us all about it.
 
Originally posted by daniel_m
max, lol. ever consider being a PI? seem to have a natural inclination for it... :)
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fruitcake, more like it, our slanderer, dissembler and spin master in chief, max. the job he was born for would have been assistant to mccarthy, seems like he missed his opportunity of a lifetime, there, or maybe work for some totalitarian regime somewhere for some kgb like association of good old boys just trying to have some fun.

as i wrote earlier RE max and his conniving little dirty games vs rs7, or actually anybody else who doesn't share his lowlife warmonging tendencies:


max, there you keep on playing your evil minded games...

let's have a little less of your rather pathetic fact twisting and dissembling, if not to call it outright lying, as indeed rs7 has divulged way more of himself and his private history than could ever have been warranted by the rude and instrumentalized charges you have been directing at him with incredible pertinacity, of course, that didn't satisfy you, as you were never after the answers, your agenda was attacking his credibility through your little games and rhetorical questions...

and, the point is, as you very well know but are disingenuously ignoring for your little character slandering ploy:

having been, or not having been, in combat, cannot be proven or disproved on a board, but it is also thoroughly immaterial to the discussion at hand, because, genius, you do not need to have been a soldier let alone have been involved in warfare to be able to imagine death or mutilation on the one hand, or come to an educated assessment of strategic diplomatic, geopolitical and economic consequences of war on the other.

so, for a change, let's get some facts from you for a change:

i do wonder, though, what with max's insistence on delving into others private backgrounds just to shed some doubt on the material content of their messages, if the dear boy, now that we have verified his gender, is actually planning on applying for a tour of duty himself?

or if he would prefer to be a couch potato warrior, getting his thrills from watching manipulated tv coverage of the war that makes it magically appear surgically precise and clean, with a remote control as his only weapon and a beer or two his only consolation for an opportunity missed on purpose to hmm, go kick some ass.

but, then again, how could he prove his reply to us?

oh dear.

brent scowcroft, national security advisor to presidents gerald ford & george bush senior:
Don't Attack Saddam
It would undermine our antiterror efforts
http://www.opinionjournal.com/edito...ml?id=110002133
 
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