Steve46 and Hypostomus Debate Trading Strategy

Quote from Exodus:

Listen Carefully !!!!

If you HAVE'NT got a PROVEN definable edge then your NOT a TRADER your just a GAMBLER and there is a small but HUGE difference.

If you honestly do not understand the above statement then you don't have it and STOP trading till you do!!!


Actually I don't fully understand the statement. I would think the markets need not only some Edge traders, but also a lot of Gambling traders. :confused:
 
Quote from OddTrader:

Actually I don't fully understand the statement. I would think the markets need not only some Edge traders, but also a lot of Gambling traders. :confused:


Your absolutely right, the "Market" needs gamblers/speculators but what do "You" need ???


Amendment: When I say definable edge I mean quantifiable as well.

True professionals leave NOTHING to chance :cool:
 
Quote from Exodus:

True professionals leave NOTHING to chance :cool:

Luckily I'm not as professional as many others. Besides following my system, I leave all things to chance. :D
 
Quote from Exodus:

This is the EXACT thinking that keeps Las Vegas alive and the EXACT thinking that keeps losing traders, losing!

It's called self delusion and it's no wonder you folks defend guys like steve46 because you've all been bitten by the same bug!!!!

Listen Carefully !!!!

If you HAVE'NT got a PROVEN definable edge then your NOT a TRADER your just a GAMBLER and there is a small but HUGE difference.

If you honestly do not understand the above statement then you don't have it and STOP trading till you do!!!

Peace and out and I'll leave you all to your resident false guru steve46 :D :D :D


Kind of depends on what you mean by proven and definable, as I've traded with many discretionary traders in daytrading shops who make good bucks, but don't have anything that they could present to anyone as a "system".
 
Quote from fhl:

Kind of depends on what you mean by proven and definable, as I've traded with many discretionary traders in daytrading shops who make good bucks, but don't have anything that they could present to anyone as a "system".

Again the ILLUSIONS of success may prevail in these cases.

I know many traders that have great weeks, months and even years only to blow out in the end !

So what was the point of it all ?

Quantifiable means that it is measurable and if it's measurable then it's real, so long as it continues to be quantifiable.
 
Exodus. Look here, asshole:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1123113#post1123113

before you call ME a loser. Show me YOUR trades today, punk! It's obvious that you just flit from thread to thread like a gnat following the scent of sweetness. Seeking opportunities for attention by harrassing your betters. Punk! Mike.

Oh, and BTW, this is MY fucking thread. I can start better threads than anybody here since the eTJackulators scurried away. I just can't stand to stay in them when all the pontifuckators like you show up.
 
Couple of things quickly while I wait for a signal

First, surely you know that Exodus is Samson77.

I have outlined his misadventures trying to sell stolen systems here on ET.

In general he has nothing to say except to mouth the words of other traders whose posts he pirates. He doesn't have the basic intelligence necessary to understand what "quantitative" methods are or how to use them. He has a history of buying systems, not being able to make them work, then trying to market them here. In other words, he is a putz.

Like most scam artists, he has no shame, and can continue to post and even act aggressively, assuming that the crowd here will forget his previous acts. If you notice, almost none of the regulars here will respond to him anymore. On occasion I will slap him around a bit, but frankly I think it is a losing proposition to have anything to do with him.

I leave the rest to your judgement.

Steve
 
Quote from hypostomus:

Exodus. Look here, asshole:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1123113#post1123113

before you call ME a loser. Show me YOUR trades today, punk! It's obvious that you just flit from thread to thread like a gnat following the scent of sweetness. Seeking opportunities for attention by harrassing your betters. Punk! Mike.

Oh, and BTW, this is MY fucking thread. I can start better threads than anybody here since the eTJackulators scurried away. I just can't stand to stay in them when all the pontifuckators like you show up.


LOL

Chill out !!!

I thought this was a debate not a dictatorship ?

If you want to debate this topic let's debate it !

Showing me ONE day or ONE years brokerage statements means NOTHING especailly with 1 contract trades!!!!!:D :D :D
 
Quote from steve46:



First, surely you know that Exodus is Samson77.


blah blah blah blah

More verbal diarhea from ET's prominent authority on the subject.

Can you ever be challenged and fight like a man rather then always cowering behind the alias excuse? seriously get some help !
 
Quote from Exodus:

Again the ILLUSIONS of success may prevail in these cases.

I know many traders that have great weeks, months and even years only to blow out in the end !

So what was the point of it all ?

Quantifiable means that it is measurable and if it's measurable then it's real, so long as it continues to be quantifiable.

Was Richard Dennis' system quatifiable? Think he still blew out, if I remember correctly. And then there was Niederhoffer. You were saying about the point of it all?
 
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