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Quote from The Swordsman:

For some reason I thought that, because this 10:40 high was made on greater volume than the 10:15 highs that perhaps the channel had regained strength again. So after we went lower and the 11:00 bar BO'ed on dec vol, I was convinced we were searching for a new pt 3 of the up channel. In retrospect, I can see that this didnt work out.

My question is, once the 10:40 bar fully forms and I see its vol is still less than the 9:55 vol, should I still be seeing this as weak and avoiding looking to buy a new pt 3?

10:40 was an FTT. The increased volume was not strength (cont) but increasing selling volume (change).

I was doodling around paper trading and missed this FTT at the time but jumped in with both feet on the R2R at the BO down. :)
 
OK another day of my observations on StrSqw provided good opportunity despite no news (thanks to the big sell off).

Here is what I saw as an interesting event: YM (ES too) did a strong volatility expansion move beyond LTL together with high volume and Str/Sqw provided an extreme move (relative to the rest of the day) to the upside.

Question to people with more experience: was it a really valid reversal signal?

For me it is important to know that i don't "make up" signals and they really exist...
 
Ivo, thanks for the comments.

The dotted lines represent minor point 3 channels, and the solid lines represent the major channels I'm attempting to trade. I use the finer dotted line channels to support trading decisions of the major channels. I've made no attempt to draw tapes for some time, but maybe it's time to try again.

Quote from ivob:

Hi,

Nice chart but make sure channels "match the gaussians". This means (imo) that the RTL of up channels should touch the bottom of the bars with black volume peaks and the RTL of down channels should touch the top of the bars with red volume because that's where the selling came in.

That explanation is very helpful. I'll keep this in mind tomorrow.

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For example your first dotted grey downchannel. You use top of bar 2 + top of bar 8 for the RTL. Bar 2 is okay (at the top the red volume came in) but bar 8 was buying, not selling. It's black volume.

But it is the high point of what would be point 3 of a new point 3 down channel, and bar 8 is the high that originates the next bar with red volume just like bar 2. The only difference I see between bar 2 and bar 8 is that volume peaks after 2, but not after 8, where it just increases slightly red on bar 9. Does this mean you won't draw a RT until peak volume has occurred?

Regarding using peak volume points to match gaussians in reference to taped channels, do you steepen channels to match these peak points? Like in the attached?

Esteban
 

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CFerret just a thought but is it possible this premium move is caused by YM falling 6 pts before the IB INDU quote was refreshed? I only ask because on my feed (IQfeed) there is no such move to 6 (I have a high of about 3) and I know that IB do not refresh their INDU quote as frequently as one would like. Mind you IQ aren't brilliant either. Do others have this spike?

Also the difference study in Sierra can act a little oddly. You could try changing the time frame from say 2 sec to 10 sec to 10 min and see if the premium hi/lo readings are consistent. Mine aren't and I'm not sure if it's a data or Sierra issue.

What may help is a fast INDU derived directly from the 30 stocks which can be built in a worksheet, though this may be resource hungry.
 
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CFerret just a thought but is it possible this premium move is caused by YM falling 6 pts before the IB INDU quote was refreshed? I only ask because on my feed (IQfeed) there is no such move to 6 (I have a high of about 3) and I know that IB do not refresh their INDU quote as frequently as one would like. Do others have this spike?

Yes it is possible, since I had some problems with data feed that day (earlier though). Would be nice to know if it was just my erroneous signal or not...
 
Quote from dkm:

ES 10 May 07
Saw the RTL BO at 11:00 and waited for a pt 3. Missed 11:45, thinking that the L2R traverse was not finished and wanted to avoid entering on a “limb”. Missed 12:50 due to misplaced RTL. After the RTL BO at 13:50, took at long at 14:22 @ 03.25. exited at 15:05 @ 02.25 due to RTL BO. The L2R traverse had not finished and saw 2 more possible pt3’s but did not enter. After the RTL BO at 14:50, saw the pt 3 at 15:15 but did not take due to strong black volume on prior bar. Problem of identifying pt3’s in a timely manner continues.

Not sure what to say here. Days like today MUST be your EASY days (ie. ATM DISPENSER).

Sometimes as traders, we can fall into the trap of "analysis paralysis" instead of just acting on sufficient data (ie. RTL BO)... A RTL BO is complete because it either CONTINUES its BO or it FBOs. Why not throw the pt3s into the BO/FBO set. It does fit in. Treating them as you see them you have your conditions for when they go against the pt3 (ie. BO). Of course if the action does not CONTINUE to BO but instead recrosses back over the previous RTL, you KNOW you have a FBO...
 
Quote from makosgu:

... Days like today MUST be your EASY days (ie. ATM DISPENSER).
A RTL BO is complete because it either CONTINUES its BO or it FBOs. Why not throw the pt3s into the BO/FBO set.

I may have misunderstood Spyder but I thought the RTL BO was an exit signal. Just trying to follow the Forest rules of entry at a pt3.
 
My lesson of the day.

This AHA should have happened in January, but it popped up today, so I will share it with you.

On 15:05, I drew a RTL from 13:30, thinking this might be a new Pt3 for a new up channel.

Then I consult Mr. Gau. He said the reds are increasing. i.e. this down move from 14:30 was not a retrace, but a dominant traverse of a down channel.

I quickly erased the trend line.
 

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