Quote from The Big D:
Now you've just gone off the deep end. What I said was that the evidence thus far points to him not being profitable. I've seen the following evidence:
- bone's less than savvy comments in the bond thread
- the shills promoting his service
- bone's unwillingness to provide proof of his claims despite it being in the best interest of his coaching business for him to do so
is that enough for me to be 100% certain he's lying? Of course not. But it's enough for me to be fairly confident - maybe 80%. Remember: if bone wants people to think he's actually profitable, all he has to do is provide some evidence.
Quote from Peternam:
That's my point too.
If he would post his returns for those 18 years and some risk/reward figures , I would be much more confident because if he was misrepresenting, lying about his performance , he would expose himself to mail fraud , now would he risk that ?

Quote from Maverick74:
Yes that's true but that is your responsibility, not his. Or do you depend on others to make you profitable. If that's the case, good luck buddy, you'll need it. A lot of it!
Quote from bone:
Well, Peternam, with an 8% return track record you certainly have nowhere to go but up. Why are you on ET, exactly?
Quote from Maverick74:
Can I ask a question here for all the guys that are attacking Bone and his service. Let me say to start out with, I think Bone is legit and is a profitable trader. But let's just say for argument's sake that he was not profitable. Or even that he was once and is no longer profitable. Would that really make any difference with the service he is offering? I mean Bone is not offering a spiritual transformation course here. He is offering knowledge, experience and customized software. I mean it would be like me asking the guys over at TT software to show me that they could make money trading using their TT execution software. Or asking e-signal to show me their profitable trading records before I subscribe to their charting service. Bone is providing a service.
If I have never traded calendar spreads in Crude Oil before and I wanted to learn how to trade them, are you saying Bone would not be of service to me? Are you saying his spreadsheets would not offer any value. That his experience over the years of trading them, whether profitable or not would not be a value add for me? Is this what you guys are really saying?
I mean I honestly don't get it. When I was in college, I paid a shitload of money to professors that never accomplished a damn thing in the real world to teach me various subjects. I'm sure most of you have. I never asked my university to show me the list of accolades they all have.
In fact most coaches, teachers, instructors have never really "made" it in their area of expertise. They simply have knowledge and experience that is of some value to those who don't know have the knowledge and experience.
Let's say Bone did show you 18 years of returns where he made 50 million a year. How would this benefit you? He still is not an alchemist. If you are a bad trader, there is nothing he can do to suddenly transform you into a trading superstar even if the guy has made 500 million. So seriously, what is your gripe guys?
Quote from Maverick74:
... Let me say to start out with, I think Bone is legit and is a profitable trader. But let's just say for argument's sake that he was not profitable. Or even that he was once and is no longer profitable. Would that really make any difference with the service he is offering? I mean Bone is not offering a spiritual transformation course here. He is offering knowledge, experience and customized software. I mean it would be like me asking the guys over at TT software to show me that they could make money trading using their TT execution software. Or asking e-signal to show me their profitable trading records before I subscribe to their charting service. Bone is providing a service.
If I have never traded calendar spreads in Crude Oil before and I wanted to learn how to trade them, are you saying Bone would not be of service to me? Are you saying his spreadsheets would not offer any value. That his experience over the years of trading them, whether profitable or not would not be a value add for me? Is this what you guys are really saying?
I mean I honestly don't get it. When I was in college, I paid a shitload of money to professors that never accomplished a damn thing in the real world to teach me various subjects. I'm sure most of you have. I never asked my university to show me the list of accolades they all have.
In fact most coaches, teachers, instructors have never really "made" it in their area of expertise. They simply have knowledge and experience that is of some value to those who don't know have the knowledge and experience.
Let's say Bone did show you 18 years of returns where he made 50 million a year. How would this benefit you? He still is not an alchemist. If you are a bad trader, there is nothing he can do to suddenly transform you into a trading superstar even if the guy has made 500 million. So seriously, what is your gripe guys?
Quote from Maverick74:
So let me get this straight. You say he has not proven his profitability. Yet you come on this thread and imply that he "has" proven he is unprofitable as you clearly are making the accusation. Which by the way is libelous unless you have proof. What are you basing your libelous claim on?
Quote from Maverick74:
Can I ask a question here for all the guys that are attacking Bone and his service. Let me say to start out with, I think Bone is legit and is a profitable trader. But let's just say for argument's sake that he was not profitable. Or even that he was once and is no longer profitable. Would that really make any difference with the service he is offering? I mean Bone is not offering a spiritual transformation course here. He is offering knowledge, experience and customized software. I mean it would be like me asking the guys over at TT software to show me that they could make money trading using their TT execution software. Or asking e-signal to show me their profitable trading records before I subscribe to their charting service. Bone is providing a service.
If I have never traded calendar spreads in Crude Oil before and I wanted to learn how to trade them, are you saying Bone would not be of service to me? Are you saying his spreadsheets would not offer any value. That his experience over the years of trading them, whether profitable or not would not be a value add for me? Is this what you guys are really saying?
I mean I honestly don't get it. When I was in college, I paid a shitload of money to professors that never accomplished a damn thing in the real world to teach me various subjects. I'm sure most of you have. I never asked my university to show me the list of accolades they all have.
In fact most coaches, teachers, instructors have never really "made" it in their area of expertise. They simply have knowledge and experience that is of some value to those who don't know have the knowledge and experience.
Let's say Bone did show you 18 years of returns where he made 50 million a year. How would this benefit you? He still is not an alchemist. If you are a bad trader, there is nothing he can do to suddenly transform you into a trading superstar even if the guy has made 500 million. So seriously, what is your gripe guys?