More than half of the 33 clients I have signed from ET exposure have never posted on ET, and I have been a little shocked at the quality of some of the clients I've been able to sign from ET - three clients are by my guesstimate well into 7 figures and one is into 8 figures a year.
People have a legitimate right to be very skeptical about trader training, books, seminars, forums and the ilk because that part of the business is full of scumbags and by default I get lumped in there with them.
People also have a right to question why someone would rather give up screen time trading and exchange that time for consulting - that is, until they are 50 years old with a house full of kids and they've done it as long as I have. I still trade two or three days per week for my own account and almost always have a few swing trades working at any point in time. I also work with the occasional fund, prop group, or CTAs. This year alone I've completed projects for 3 funds in the NorthEast.
Another consideration is that most people confuse money management credentials with training credentials - I have never made market calls, I don't solicit OPM, I'm not a CTA, and in fact the only money I make out of this venture is the consulting fee by choice so that in the final analysis I have the client's best interests at heart when brokerage/clearing, charting packages, execution platforms, and those other associated expenses come to play.
Of course, someone would have to be insane to post any sort of legitimate financial statements on a public forum, and I find it fascinating that Linda Bradford Rashcke, Pete Steidelmayer, and all the other trader training "gurus" have never posted any statements and everybody seems to accept whatever is written or said at face value. Truth be told, if you are a very good futures trader you can state a ridiculous return due to the levering capabilities inherent in the space - many good futures traders can make, for example, $50K per month gross using no more than $50K per day of margin - it's in fact a common occurrence here in Chicago with the better traders. In the Chicago prop business model, the firm tries to take as much as they can from a trader in terms of commission overage and all sorts of desk fees - you have no choice but to return 100% per month on your daily margin if after it's all said and done you want to take anything home worth getting excited about. It would be reckless and irresponsible for me to promote that kind of return in a public space (and I could) because in fact no one can predict how another person will perform - every one of us walking this earth has different risk appetites and emotional baggage we tote around. A trader will also be able to generate greater returns with a $50K account than a $500M account for a number of legitimate reasons.
In the end, any logical person who chooses a training program based upon the stated returns thrown around by a vendor is somewhat dellusional and shallow.
Anybody who has seen another trainer's lefit statements, like LBR's for example, please post them and maybe I should then reconsider.