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A 3 post testimonial. Thanks, Bone. But would be much more impressive if you would not avoid the earlier very reasonable requeat, to post your own account statements from the last few years. At LEAST for the past 12 months. After all, if you cannot trade profitably, why is it worth buying?..
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A 3 post testimonial. Thanks, Bone. But would be much more impressive if you would not avoid the earlier very reasonable requeat, to post your own account statements from the last few years. At LEAST for the past 12 months. After all, if you cannot trade profitably, why is it worth buying?..
Way to ignore every single point I made and just re-hash what you have already said. I sincerely doubt that even if Bone were to give you what you wanted, you would sign up for the course anyway, so what is the point. You're pretty arrogant to think you/this board has the right to see it. It's his business, so he can do what he likes. I've read this whole thread and haven't seen one client of his post something negative about him. Maybe you should read it?
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I'll post something negative. He spends too much time / energy trying to placate the trolls. He'll provide you with plenty of info to perform DD. Bottom line - its a trade - like anything else. Gather the facts, do the analysis, pull the trigger or not. No one is forcing you to use his services. If you feel the need to be altruistic - go save a whale / dolphin / polar bear / starving child etc.... otherwise, post something useful.
I'll post something negative. He spends too much time / energy trying to placate the trolls. He'll provide you with plenty of info to perform DD. Bottom line - its a trade - like anything else. Gather the facts, do the analysis, pull the trigger or not. No one is forcing you to use his services. If you feel the need to be altruistic - go save a whale / dolphin / polar bear / starving child etc.... otherwise, post something useful.
Hello:
I signed on less than a month ago. I spent several weeks doing due dilligence on him. I spoke with current and past clients. I spoke with several of my friends in the business that knew him personally. I also spoke with risk managers at 2 clearing firms where he trades. They all confirmed that he is in good standing and has never had ANY issues of fraud, deceit, or leaving debits (which is SO COMMON in this business)..... I verified that his past employment with several tradign firms and other associations. Brokerage firms have to maintain client confidentiality, so now discussion of P&L were done.
So, I did the next step. I wanted to meet him personally. Most frauds and con man after speaking with me and meeting me over the phone would not want to meet me in person. I have been in this business for 19 years and can smell a scam. I am a skeptic.
We met for dinner and I could tell right away that he has the knowledge, the experience, and the technical skill of someone who has been in this business for quite some time... Do I know if he made piles of money? No. Fortunately from my experience and background, I can test whether a strategy has a positive edge. His strategies do have positive edge. Have I made money yet? No. I will start implementing his strategies this week.
I am always learning new things, strategies, themes, etc in this business... if you don't you'll get obsolete fast. Tuition is NEVER cheap. Good education costs eith by way of an experienced trader or by way of market experience.... you either choose a path or it will choose you.
This is the first time I ever posted. I remember when this whole forum started back in the day. I am too busy to post but i do pop on and read once in awhile, which is how I can spot those that have knowledge and those that will be schooled....
You cannot possibly make up the depth of knowledge that Bone has. That's my opinoin for whatever its worth... although I guess it's now worth a $6500 tuition fee....
I think I'll be able to make back the tuition pretty quick...but that's me. We are all different. Maybe you are not at that level yet to learn more...
Bottom line. Real deal. Positive edge. Humurous guy actually....
It is not the holy grail, I have never found one...but his model is a very good supplement to what I am doing right now.
Anyone want to email me, you can reach me by PM Please don't waste my time if you are going on the attack. If you are going to ask some intelligent questions, I will answer to the best of my ability.
Best,
Ronin
I signed on less than a month ago. I spent several weeks doing due dilligence on him. I spoke with current and past clients. I spoke with several of my friends in the business that knew him personally. I also spoke with risk managers at 2 clearing firms where he trades. They all confirmed that he is in good standing and has never had ANY issues of fraud, deceit, or leaving debits (which is SO COMMON in this business)..... I verified that his past employment with several tradign firms and other associations. Brokerage firms have to maintain client confidentiality, so now discussion of P&L were done.
So, I did the next step. I wanted to meet him personally. Most frauds and con man after speaking with me and meeting me over the phone would not want to meet me in person. I have been in this business for 19 years and can smell a scam. I am a skeptic.
We met for dinner and I could tell right away that he has the knowledge, the experience, and the technical skill of someone who has been in this business for quite some time... Do I know if he made piles of money? No. Fortunately from my experience and background, I can test whether a strategy has a positive edge. His strategies do have positive edge. Have I made money yet? No. I will start implementing his strategies this week.
I am always learning new things, strategies, themes, etc in this business... if you don't you'll get obsolete fast. Tuition is NEVER cheap. Good education costs eith by way of an experienced trader or by way of market experience.... you either choose a path or it will choose you.
This is the first time I ever posted. I remember when this whole forum started back in the day. I am too busy to post but i do pop on and read once in awhile, which is how I can spot those that have knowledge and those that will be schooled....
You cannot possibly make up the depth of knowledge that Bone has. That's my opinoin for whatever its worth... although I guess it's now worth a $6500 tuition fee....
I think I'll be able to make back the tuition pretty quick...but that's me. We are all different. Maybe you are not at that level yet to learn more...
Bottom line. Real deal. Positive edge. Humurous guy actually....
It is not the holy grail, I have never found one...but his model is a very good supplement to what I am doing right now.
Anyone want to email me, you can reach me by PM Please don't waste my time if you are going on the attack. If you are going to ask some intelligent questions, I will answer to the best of my ability.
Best,
Ronin
Listen Bone, if you want respect, then post at least your last 12 months statements and stop cooking up aliases to defend yourself.
But I see your outburst under the spammers thread, only evidences that you may be shilling yourself 1-2 times here, and that your road-raging frustration we have seen in the past is only mounting.
Maybe it is time to start threatening to get your lawyers like you did to others earlier...
PPT: I will ask some of my current clients and ET members to post here on this thread, then I will PM you and ask for your full name and address where my lawyer can serve the tort libel papers. I'm sure you'll be as forthcoming as you ask of me.
JoePaterno:
I'll give you $10,000 cash for any posting I made under any other alias or IP address in this thread. Prove it.
Then try to be a human being and apologize.
Show me any trading educator's "audited financial statements" that satifies your criteria. Bernie Madoff had "audited financial statements". Show me the standard for integrity. LBR? Steidelmeyer?
I'll give you $10,000 cash for any posting I made under any other alias or IP address in this thread. Prove it.
Then try to be a human being and apologize.
Show me any trading educator's "audited financial statements" that satifies your criteria. Bernie Madoff had "audited financial statements". Show me the standard for integrity. LBR? Steidelmeyer?
You're being a bleeding eeejit, IMHO...
If you want to use bone's services, do your own due diligence. If you're simply expressing your opinion, you have now made it abundantly clear, as have others. Your incessant rants make no sense, as others have pointed out, and you refuse to argue logically.
The only reason I am posting this is in hope that you can't accuse me of being yet another of bone's aliases.
Totally off topic, but have to ask - how does someone pull this off (leaving debit) short of blowing up one's account?
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I'll give you $10,000 cash for any posting I made under any other alias or IP address in this thread. Prove it.
Prove you did not. IP addresses have no meaning. This site cannot keep up with a few (cold) who keep changing their IP address(es)
Show me any trading educator's "audited financial statements" that satifies your criteria. Bernie Madoff had "audited financial statements". Show me the standard for integrity. LBR? Steidelmeyer?
Madoff also had his own accountants under his thumb. It is always like that when people make claims that are difficult for prospects to see the truth. http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/17/news/companies/madoff.auditor.fortune/
There are a number of tracking sites and brokers who will track your work independently.
http://www.strategyrunner.com/Content/index.php
http://www.striker.com/ (just set up an account and they will monitor your results
http://www.Timertrac.com.
http://www.robbinstrading.com/worldcup/
Seems like there are another 5-10 bouncing around. These take the performance claims out of your hand, and your trades are audited by someone else, and performance results are available for all to see.
Or did you just ask a rhetorical question, because you might not like what would happen if a year's worth of your own trades were actually verified by others?
Place your own calls here, in real time for 2 weeks. Surely your keyboard still works. Is there any reason NOT to prove, instead of making prospects listen to unprovable things like "33 ETers!" "Talk to my anonymous clients!"
It is called "sunlight." It exposes things for what they are. Clear for all to see. But of course, you might prefer to think of a half dozen reasons not to.
Now that you asked, are you going to give your many claimed ET trader wannabes the evidence that you make money within good risk parameters & with good expectancy, or will you go silent while unknown aliases rise again to defend you again?
I'll give you $10,000 cash for any posting I made under any other alias or IP address in this thread. Prove it.
Prove you did not. IP addresses have no meaning. This site cannot keep up with a few (cold) who keep changing their IP address(es)
Show me any trading educator's "audited financial statements" that satifies your criteria. Bernie Madoff had "audited financial statements". Show me the standard for integrity. LBR? Steidelmeyer?
Madoff also had his own accountants under his thumb. It is always like that when people make claims that are difficult for prospects to see the truth. http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/17/news/companies/madoff.auditor.fortune/
There are a number of tracking sites and brokers who will track your work independently.
http://www.strategyrunner.com/Content/index.php
http://www.striker.com/ (just set up an account and they will monitor your results
http://www.Timertrac.com.
http://www.robbinstrading.com/worldcup/
Seems like there are another 5-10 bouncing around. These take the performance claims out of your hand, and your trades are audited by someone else, and performance results are available for all to see.
Or did you just ask a rhetorical question, because you might not like what would happen if a year's worth of your own trades were actually verified by others?
Place your own calls here, in real time for 2 weeks. Surely your keyboard still works. Is there any reason NOT to prove, instead of making prospects listen to unprovable things like "33 ETers!" "Talk to my anonymous clients!"
It is called "sunlight." It exposes things for what they are. Clear for all to see. But of course, you might prefer to think of a half dozen reasons not to.
Now that you asked, are you going to give your many claimed ET trader wannabes the evidence that you make money within good risk parameters & with good expectancy, or will you go silent while unknown aliases rise again to defend you again?