Spread The Wealth For Idiots - Defined

[iceman1]

Quote from Gord:

Obama was willing to surrender Iraq to satisfy the netkook base of the Democrat party. This would have had disasterous consequences, handing al Qaeda a major victory and probably leading to a larger Middle East war.

Listen you sophomoric moron... we should not even be in Iraq at this PRESENT time! Don't you fucking get that!? If you don't then:

>>TELL me the reason that we should still be in Iraq over 5 years later? s Bin Laden living there? Give me an articulate answer that shows more than a 5th grade understanding.

We went in to prevent hussein from using WMD. We have NO right to attack other sovereign Nations simply because we do not agree with their politics or ideologies! What the F-CK would you say if we attacked Canada? Or Argentina? Etc. Etc??!! Moreover using your inane logic why can't Iran attack us then!!? They maybe don't like our views or religion or leaders! Maybe they think we will harm them so they want t preempt that threat! So please......... tell me why Iraq or Iran cannot attack us if they so choose and had the power ! Please, tell us all why?!

(you understand this is a socratic post)

Please show us that guys like you can HANDLE THE TRUTH every fourth or fifth Friday!

There is one consistent theme amongst morons from both sides of the political spectrum... they cannot think OUTSIDE THE BOX EVER! Further morons like you are easily persuaded to a point of view AND/OR have NO ability to think for themselves.

>>>Why do you think that honoring only ONE party or idea is the best for you and the world and the USA? Can you actually take that pea brain and articulate a reason WHY you (apparently) support ONE party only?
Damn guys like you are scary. You are what mobs are made off! Can't think for themselves! Can't stand tall and have courage to say what is right! They follow the crowd!

>>>Can you actually articulate why you are NOT (so it clearly seems) an independent political thinker and cannot accept that all parties have input that is valuable and that to reach the best solution we need to be more open-minded... NOT LESS!

Please, tell me you get that so I can sleep tonight!

(picture/hear the voices of Nicholson and Cruise in "A Few Good Men") LOL

 

[iceman1]

Quote from runningman:


For bonus credit, would a republican please say why you SUPPORT that type of behavior? I thought you were the party of hard work and earning what you have? That storyline kinda falls apart for ya, don't it?
Why do you hold up as idols people who are born on third and think they hit a triple?

Touche'!!

 

[iceman1]

P.S.

What kind of twisted distorted reasoning is it for a guy to claim we should not "surrender" Iraq (which costs us a LOT of dough) in the midst of the worst financial crisis in 75+ years. In all seriousness sincerity and good-faith, please... SOMEONE tell me why that reasoning (from an earlier post attacking Obama for allegedly "surrendering") isn't "prima facie" proof that the author has little to no real perspective on what he is asserting!

Rebut for me the notion that in the midst of a serious financial crash (which we will likely recover from... we hope) it is not sensible to give considered thought to removing our occupying troops from another's land not just for because international law and justice dictates it NOW (since the occupying reasons are LONG GONE) but to protect our own financial self-interests?!

Of course republicans DO believe in law, don't they.

International Law?????

Please.... let's hear all that republican insight and intellect into how the world according to garp should be !

 

[Gord]

Quote from iceman1:

Listen you sophomoric moron... we should not even be in Iraq at this PRESENT time! Don't you fucking get that!? If you don't then:

>>TELL me the reason that we should still be in Iraq over 5 years later? s Bin Laden living there? Give me an articulate answer that shows more than a 5th grade understanding.

We went in to prevent hussein from using WMD. We have NO right to attack other sovereign Nations simply because we do not agree with their politics or ideologies! What the F-CK would you say if we attacked Canada? Or Argentina? Etc. Etc??!! Moreover using your inane logic why can't Iran attack us then!!? They maybe don't like our views or religion or leaders! Maybe they think we will harm them so they want t preempt that threat! So please......... tell me why Iraq or Iran cannot attack us if they so choose and had the power ! Please, tell us all why?!

(you understand this is a socratic post)

Please show us that guys like you can HANDLE THE TRUTH every fourth or fifth Friday!

There is one consistent theme amongst morons from both sides of the political spectrum... they cannot think OUTSIDE THE BOX EVER! Further morons like you are easily persuaded to a point of view AND/OR have NO ability to think for themselves.

>>>Why do you think that honoring only ONE party or idea is the best for you and the world and the USA? Can you actually take that pea brain and articulate a reason WHY you (apparently) support ONE party only?
Damn guys like you are scary. You are what mobs are made off! Can't think for themselves! Can't stand tall and have courage to say what is right! They follow the crowd!

>>>Can you actually articulate why you are NOT (so it clearly seems) an independent political thinker and cannot accept that all parties have input that is valuable and that to reach the best solution we need to be more open-minded... NOT LESS!

Please, tell me you get that so I can sleep tonight!

(picture/hear the voices of Nicholson and Cruise in "A Few Good Men") LOL

Sorry I don't write texbook length answers to posts that don't even address the issues in my post.

Clearly Barack Obama is all about Barack Obama - he does not give a shit about America other than making it his own little radical, socialist utopia based on his marxist upbringing.

 

[Yannis]

Quote from iceman1:

...TELL me the reason that we should still be in Iraq over 5 years later? ...

Saddam Hussein and his regime were a threat to the region (eg, Kuwait, suicide bombers in Israel, etc) and to the US, as they constantly threatened us, violated the accords that were signed after the 1st Gulf war, bribed UN officials and starved their own people to amass wealth. Plus, they cosntantly maintained that they were developing WMD capable of seriously harming whoever stood in their way, eg, us. Their WMD situation was so complex and persuasive that twice the UN inspectors reported (during the 90s) that they (Iraq) really had them.

Accordingly, Clinton gave several speeches at the time touting and confirming the universal belief that Iraq had WMD. He was the one who appointed George Tenet as CIA Director - the same Tenet who supervised the develpoment of all WMD intelligence that was used for the Iraq war in 2003.

That was too much for the US and over 20 other nations to take, especially given the fact that Saddam was clearly bribing the French and the Russians with the promise of huge oil projects as soon as they had convinced the UN to drop all restrictions. Given that over 70% of Americans supported the war (not me, I'm opposed to all wars for moral reasons) the US attacked and took Saddam's regime out, neutralized the threat in the enemies' own turf, which makes sense.

Then what? Leave? Iran would have waltzed in and the ME would have been in chaos. All local allies (eg, Saudi Arabia) begged us to stay and finish the job: help create a truly free Iraq, which, we insisted, should be democratic, and they agreed.

Victory in Iraq means that we do what it takes to complete this project and make sure the Iraqis remain free. This is the same way we had helped with Germany's and Italy's and Japan's reconstruction and re-establishment of democratic institutions. Made sense at the time. The project is almost complete at the moment. It would be nice if we could stay for a few more years (small force to help the Iraqi government if they want us to do so) or be allowed to build a base somewhere there like we have all over Europe.

Again, I was always against this war, but I can't say that the government's reasoning was stupid. Remember, the overwhelming majority of the American public was for it in 2003.

In retrospect, the Dem politicians played us all. First they supported the war and then started blaming the Republicans for every hiccup along the way. Gradually they convinced the public that the Democratic party was never for it: BS! Both Hillary and Biden voted for it. Oh well.

 

[iceman1]

Quote from Gord:

Sorry I don't write texbook length answers to posts that don't even address the issues in my post.

Clearly Barack Obama is all about Barack Obama - he does not give a shit about America other than making it his own little radical, socialist utopia based on his marxist upbringing.

Ok I will keep this short and to the point!

YOU are the best argument for not allowing some people to vote until they demonstrate a basic 8th grade ability and knowldedge in reasoning, rational thinking and understanding of the issues!

I am sorry you do not have the mind to think for yourself! Well actually I AM NOT SORRY since guys like you scare the F out of the rest of the millions who get it!

 

[Gord]

Quote from iceman1:

Ok I will keep this short and to the point!

YOU are the best argument for not allowing some people to vote until they demonstrate a basic 8th grade ability and knowldedge in reasoning, rational thinking and understanding of the issues!

I am sorry you do not have the mind to think for yourself! Well actually I AM NOT SORRY since guys like you scare the F out of the rest of the millions who get it!

Classic sign of a defeated liberal - ad hom attacks to avoid addressing the issue...

 

[Gord]

I'd like to thank icebrain for the opportunity to support my argument through again posting my Obama scoundrel list:

Obama's grandparents and mother
Marxist sympathizers

Frank Marshall Davis - teenage Obama's mentor and possible biological father
Communist and child molester

Michelle Obama - wife
Very bitter outlook on life and America, segregationist

Saul Alinsky - Obama learned community organizing under proselytes of Alinsky
Communist sympathizer, radical political disruption, wrote Rules for Radicals

Acorn - community organization Obama associated with in his organizing days
Known for widespread voter fraud and promoting the affirmative mortgage programs that have led to the worldwide financial meltdown

Tony Rezko - financial backer and personal friend
Felon, slumlord and part of the Chicago machine politics

William Ayers - friend, political mentor, wrote Obama's two books
Started Weather Underground, unrepentant domestic terrorist, hates America

Bernadine Dohrn - partner of William Ayers
Domestic terrorist, hates America

Jeremiah Wright - spiritual mentor of Barack for 20 years
Black liberation theology (communism), racist, hates America, anti-Semite

Jeremiah Wright's church - Obama's church
A congregation that cheers America bashing and racism

Khalid al-Mansour - patron, facilitated Obama's law schooling
Started Black Panthers, hates America, anti-Semite

Rashid Khalidi - friend, Obamas babysat his children
Pro-Palestinian anti-Semite, supports suicide bombing

Father Flager - another spiritual mentor and friend
Hates America, anti-Semite

Raila Odinga - Muslim, Kenyan presidential candidate in 2007 supported and advised by Obama
His supporters murdered 1,500 and displaced 600,000, also promised to institute sharia law

Franklin Raines/Jim Johnson - Former heads of Fannie Mae, advisors to Obama's campaign, raised money for Obama
Both have been singled out for impropriety and a leading cause of the current world financial meltdown

Louis Farrakhan - head of the Nation of Islam, friend of Wright and Flager, organized Million Man March that Obama attended
Hates America, racist, anti-Semite

Cynthia K Miller - Obama's senate campaign treasurer
Member of Nation of Islam, racist, anti-Semite

Jennefer Mason - Obama's Director of Constituent Services
Member of Nation of Islam, racist, anti-Semite

Shakir Muhammad - Obama senate campaign consultant
Member of Nation of Islam, racist, anti-Semite

Kenny Gamble (also known as Luqman Abdul-Haqq) - cut the ribbon to the Obama campaign headquarters housed in a South Philadelphia building he owns - self-styled "amir" of the United Muslim Movement, he has many links to Islamist organizations, including CAIR and the Muslim Alliance in North America. (MANA's "amir" is Siraj Wahhaj, an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.)
Racist, anti-Semite

Mazen Asbahi - Obama campaign's first Muslim outreach coordinator, associated with Hamas funding
Racist, anti-Semite

Minha Husaini - Obama campaign's second Muslim outreach coordinator, has publicly supported Hamas and Hizbullah
Racist, anti-Semite

Robert Malley - Obama campaign advisor, Hamas sympathizer
Racist, anti-Semite

Abongo (Roy) Obama - Barack's brother
Marxist, radical Muslim, anti-Semite

Joe Biden - Obama's vice presidential candidate
Plagiarizer, racist, gaffe machine, liar extraordinaire

 

[Yannis]

Quote from Gord:

I'd like to thank icebrain for the opportunity to support my argument through again posting my Obama scoundrel list:

Obama's grandparents and mother
Marxist sympathizers

Frank Marshall Davis - teenage Obama's mentor and possible biological father
Communist and child molester

Michelle Obama - wife
Very bitter outlook on life and America, segregationist

Saul Alinsky - Obama learned community organizing under proselytes of Alinsky
Communist sympathizer, radical political disruption, wrote Rules for Radicals

Acorn - community organization Obama associated with in his organizing days
Known for widespread voter fraud and promoting the affirmative mortgage programs that have led to the worldwide financial meltdown

Tony Rezko - financial backer and personal friend
Felon, slumlord and part of the Chicago machine politics

William Ayers - friend, political mentor, wrote Obama's two books
Started Weather Underground, unrepentant domestic terrorist, hates America

Bernadine Dohrn - partner of William Ayers
Domestic terrorist, hates America

Jeremiah Wright - spiritual mentor of Barack for 20 years
Black liberation theology (communism), racist, hates America, anti-Semite

Jeremiah Wright's church - Obama's church
A congregation that cheers America bashing and racism

Khalid al-Mansour - patron, facilitated Obama's law schooling
Started Black Panthers, hates America, anti-Semite

Rashid Khalidi - friend, Obamas babysat his children
Pro-Palestinian anti-Semite, supports suicide bombing

Father Flager - another spiritual mentor and friend
Hates America, anti-Semite

Raila Odinga - Muslim, Kenyan presidential candidate in 2007 supported and advised by Obama
His supporters murdered 1,500 and displaced 600,000, also promised to institute sharia law

Franklin Raines/Jim Johnson - Former heads of Fannie Mae, advisors to Obama's campaign, raised money for Obama
Both have been singled out for impropriety and a leading cause of the current world financial meltdown

Louis Farrakhan - head of the Nation of Islam, friend of Wright and Flager, organized Million Man March that Obama attended
Hates America, racist, anti-Semite

Cynthia K Miller - Obama's senate campaign treasurer
Member of Nation of Islam, racist, anti-Semite

Jennefer Mason - Obama's Director of Constituent Services
Member of Nation of Islam, racist, anti-Semite

Shakir Muhammad - Obama senate campaign consultant
Member of Nation of Islam, racist, anti-Semite

Kenny Gamble (also known as Luqman Abdul-Haqq) - cut the ribbon to the Obama campaign headquarters housed in a South Philadelphia building he owns - self-styled "amir" of the United Muslim Movement, he has many links to Islamist organizations, including CAIR and the Muslim Alliance in North America. (MANA's "amir" is Siraj Wahhaj, an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.)
Racist, anti-Semite

Mazen Asbahi - Obama campaign's first Muslim outreach coordinator, associated with Hamas funding
Racist, anti-Semite

Minha Husaini - Obama campaign's second Muslim outreach coordinator, has publicly supported Hamas and Hizbullah
Racist, anti-Semite

Robert Malley - Obama campaign advisor, Hamas sympathizer
Racist, anti-Semite

Abongo (Roy) Obama - Barack's brother
Marxist, radical Muslim, anti-Semite

Joe Biden - Obama's vice presidential candidate
Plagiarizer, racist, gaffe machine, liar extraordinaire

HEY!! That's a textbook length kind of answer, Gord.... You are not allowed!!!

 

[Gord]

And typical of Marxists there are always many things they don't want the public to know, so they have many secrets:

Can't see his vault certificate of live birth

Can't see his student grades

Can't see his student writings

Can't see his legal cases

Can't see his state legislative records

Can't see his small donors list

Can't see his medical records

Can't his Anneberg Challenge records without them being sanitized first

Can't ask about his associations

Can't see a supposedly innocent video of Obama at a dinner party