Spain lockdown

luisHK said:
This will go down even more, Madrid was in a mess also, after a 3/4 weeks lockdown the emergency rooms had one third of the patients they saw before the coronasaga. It seems now people who had been afraid to go to hospital for non corona ailments during the peak of the epidemic are showing up,at least those who didn't die at home, and hospitals get busy again. Still I went to one of the few clinics working with my insurer which are still open today, and it was quiet in the outpatient and testing areas. Third clinic I visit since the beginning of this mess, always in the outpatient area, and all experiences were similar. Most cities in the world have coped just fine with the virus, sometimes without or with just a partial lockdown.
Not sure why NY, Madrid and several cities in northern Italy got hit so hard. I would have voted for no lockdown in Madrid anyway, now this mess looks like never ending. Whole populations wasting their life, harming their physical, economic and mental health to extend the lives of a few mostly older folks.
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Madrid got a heavily used Tube/Subway system like London and NYC ??
 
Plus authorities authorised for Woman's day huge demonstrations claiming they could still manage the virus spead. 120 000 demonstrators in Madrid and many more across Spain on Sunday. Than the very next day they announced the coronavirus was out of control and they would close school that tuesday while advising all kids and teenagers to be kept indoors. Than the sunday 1 week after the demonstrations championned by the government, the strict lockdown was implemented, adults wil be alowed to stroll outside their house on sunday for the first time in 7 weeks. Police has been harsh enforcing the lockdown, although they might have relaxed a bit lately.
Minister of equality, the wife of the far left vice president (not sure of his exact title in Spain) was championning that demonstration, she got infected and now they are pushing for this half year isolation of the country.
 
luisHK said:
657 million Metro Madrid passengers in 2018 according to google search
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Metro just googles, same issue as NYC and London then, tube = everyone gets and fast.

Your issue is, Madrids peaked like London, so your number look better and the other areas might have the same death % just longer for the spread.

Madrid is on 0.12% very similar to NYC likely top out 0.15% same as NYC.

Depends on the age demographic for an area, but starting to look like 0.15% is the over all expected death rate, which means all of the world has a lot further to go.
 
Turveyd said:
Metro just googles, same issue as NYC and London then, tube = everyone gets and fast.

Your issue is, Madrids peaked like London, so your number look better and the other areas might have the same death % just longer for the spread.

Madrid is on 0.12% very similar to NYC likely top out 0.15% same as NYC.

Depends on the age demographic for an area, but starting to look like 0.15% is the over all expected death rate, which means all of the world has a lot further to go.
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This would mean Madrid has reached herd immunity and won't get any more cases. That sounds very early to tell. Social distancing has been harsh over here.
 
luisHK said:
Plus authorities authorised for Woman's day huge demonstrations claiming they could still manage the virus spead. 120 000 demonstrators in Madrid and many more across Spain on Sunday. Than the very next day they announced the coronavirus was out of control and they would close school that tuesday while advising all kids and teenagers to be kept indoors. Than the sunday 1 week after the demonstrations championned by the government, the strict lockdown was implemented, adults wil be alowed to stroll outside their house on sunday for the first time in 7 weeks. Police has been harsh enforcing the lockdown, although they might have relaxed a bit lately.
Minister of equality, the wife of the far left vice president (not sure of his exact title in Spain) was championning that demonstration, she got infected and now they are pushing for this half year isolation of the country.
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Next day LOL

So there intentionally doing Herd like in the UK, but screwing everything up to either keep the snowflake lefties happy or to intentionally screw over there own country and the people that live there.

Never going to unlock the UK before September are they :(
 
luisHK said:
This would mean Madrid has reached herd immunity and won't get any more cases. That sounds very early to tell. Social distancing has been harsh over here.
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I don't really believe in herd, but math's.

Once passed a certain point, people have had it and can't get again, so the people with it have less people to spread it to, it'll keep going just slower and slower until it's at 100% those last few %%'s could take years mind.

Ignore, 2nd infection bla bla bla until proven, no point worrying about a massively flawed maybe but unlikely, media hype.
 
Turveyd said:
Next day LOL

So there intentionally doing Herd like in the UK, but screwing everything up to either keep the snowflake lefties happy or to intentionally screw over there own country and the people that live there.

Never going to unlock the UK before September are they :(
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Not sure how much they planned ahead, they look like dangerous clowns, and are quite possibly elated at the exceptional powers they got a hold onto. With the declaration of the state of emergency, the central government took over many powers of the provincial governments, and has possibly the strongest powers any spanish government enjoyed since the death of Franco (not sure about this one, just sure spanish provinces usually enjoy quite a bit more responsabilities)
 
luisHK said:
This would mean Madrid has reached herd immunity and won't get any more cases. That sounds very early to tell. Social distancing has been harsh over here.
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NYC definately has peaked, new cases falling fast and deaths, where as NJ same area and lockdown but no Subways is still growing fast just like NYC was before the lockdowns.

Sweden wise, Stockholmes pretty much peaked but hits random towns then spikes for a few days then calms back down till another town is hit, being remote, slow to get around.
 
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