Spain gets manipulated by al-Qaida!

Quote from rowenwood:

"Call to Arms" "Boys Come over Here You're Wanted"


Lets cut off their fucking arms, litterally. Kill them into submission.

I think this idea already was covered in the muslim Sharia Laws ...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=sharia+law

In Nigeria, they wanted to stone a woman who had a child out of wedlock. In Saudi Arabia the frequently decapitate people. Thieves will get their hands cut off.
So, as you see, quite a large part of the world agrees with you.

In the US, you can get your brain cooked at 5000 volts as well. It does not kill you instantly, because electricity needs to be applied sufficently for cardia arrest, and also needs to pass through the heart.
(I was doing som e research some time back for my 36 000V wet-sprinkling-water (higher conductivity than only touching metal) electric fence here in Brasil. The problem is that it still is a lethal fence, with a high efficency coil from a car coupled with some switches from indicator lights with a car battery source. I would like to have +3 second pulses as they will make any intruder fall to the ground and become dizzy etc. for around 15+ minutes. My fence still makes the intruder fall to the ground, only he won't get up again.)
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

Mohammad was a bloodthirsty bandit pedophile who murdered the entire Jewish population of Medina- even after signing a 'peace treaty' with part of that population. The Koran is a vile sick twisted book of an overgrown death-cult. I like the part where it recommends that a man beat his wife in order to keep her in line. Yes, what a peaceful, misunderstood religion. Just what one would expect, when your 'prophet' was a delusional gang-leader who liked having sex with 9 year old girls.


Not to add insult to injury, but I guess there has been some reports of catholic pedophile priests in the US of late ...

And quoting Likud etc. hardly makes it hard to take the arguments serious. Religious extremism is stoopid - period.
Keep it out of politics, military, economy and public administrations. Practice it in churches, mosques, synagoges, temples and other places of worship. Don't try to 'shaolin' your way out in public.
 
Quote from TradEStar:

Socialist Party wins victory in Spain's election just as the al-Qaida wanted. Spain has now taught al-Qaida that terrorist bombings will work to achieve their objectives through fear and manipulation of the masses emotions. Spain could not have sent a worse message to the free world, then to embrace the appeasement policies of the Socialist Workers Party of the Left.

This can't be a good message for the European Markets tomorrow, and now we have direct al-Qaida ties to the bombings in Spain through those arrested.

It seems that others don't even need to get manipulated by Al Qaida to use them for elections huh see below the creation of "Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG)" by government.

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd1101.html

This column stands foursquare with the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, when he warns that there will be more terrorist attacks against the American people and civilization at large. We know, as does the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, that this statement is an incontrovertible fact, a matter of scientific certainty. And how can we and the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, be so sure that there will be more terrorist attacks against the American people and civilization at large?

Because these attacks will be instigated at the order of the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense.

This astonishing admission was buried deep in a story which was itself submerged by mounds of gray newsprint and glossy underwear ads in last Sunday's Los Angeles Times. There--in an article by military analyst William Arkin, detailing the vast expansion of the secret armies being massed by the former Nixon bureaucrat now lording it over the Pentagon--came the revelation of Rumsfeld's plan to create "a super-Intelligence Support Activity" that will "bring together CIA and military covert action, information warfare, intelligence, and cover and deception."

<font color=red>According to a classified document prepared for Rumsfeld by his Defense Science Board, the new organization--the "Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG)"--will carry out secret missions designed to "stimulate reactions" among terrorist groups, <B>provoking them into committing violent acts</B> which would then expose them to "counterattack" by U.S. forces.</font>

In other words--and let's say this plainly, clearly and soberly, so that no one can mistake the intention of Rumsfeld's plan--the United States government is planning to use "cover and deception" and secret military operations to provoke murderous terrorist attacks on innocent people. Let's say it again: Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, George W. Bush and the other members of the unelected regime in Washington plan to deliberately foment the murder of innocent people--your family, your friends, your lovers, you--in order to further their geopolitical ambitions.
 
Quote from TradEStar:

Riskarb

PLO/Hamas/Hezbolah are all brothers in arms with al-Qaida, and they all assist one another as previous reports have shown...that is my problem with the PLO/Hamas/Hezbolah groups. I do think Israel needs to find a negotiated peace for their region, but negotiating with the PLO will always be a waste of time.

Never in history such an insignificant little country, like Israel, has caused so many problems. very simple solution, give up jerusalem, and we all move on, all religiously motivated terrorist groups loose their right to exist and we don't have to deal with this escalating terrorist bs all over the world.
 
Quote from rowenwood:

The US needs to outlaw Islam. Islam is about war and Moslem brotherhood. Until we deal with this religion we will have problems.


Freedom is lost if people that believe in violence can conintue to preach their shit all over us. Disallow Moslems into our country. That is the only way to control them. Let them rot in their enviromentally devastated desert. Fuck them.

You are about war! Untill we deal with people like you we will have problems.

Freedom is lost if people like you that believe in violence can continue to preach their shit all over us. Disallow people like you into our country.

Quote from rowenwood:

Largely peace loving? I don't think so. The Koran does preach violence and war. Peach loving, are you joking? They teach their kids to hate and be brave for the holy war. Peace loving. Are you, you are naive?

You preach violence and war. You teach your kids to hate. You are naive.

Quote from rowenwood:

Freedom even when people plot against the lives of people who don't follow Islam? Fuck that type of freedom. That type is illogical. These people preach war and they hate us. They want to kill you. Do you feel free from them, I don't. This religion is bad. Read a summary about Islam and tell me I'm wrong.

You plot against the lives of people who happen to follow Islam. Fuck that type of freedom, that type is illogical. You preach war and you hate them. You want to kill them.

Quote from rowenwood:

Are you a Moslem?

I consider this OT and therefore don't answer. People who are less ignorant might have a clue.

Quote from rowenwood:

thank you. THat last guy thought I was just insane. He didn't seem to understand that Islam preaches violence. Yes, people need to educate themselves about this war loving religion. These people want to kill us!

I just think you are extremely ignorant and probably very young. You don't seem to understand that you preach violence. You need to educate yourself.

All this said, I do think that our Western leaders should ask for help from Muslim leaders to take a more public stance against terrorism, which I am positive most of them are willing to do. And fight the others!
 
Quote from rowenwood:

The US needs to outlaw Islam. Islam is about war and Moslem brotherhood. Until we deal with this religion we will have problems.


Freedom is lost if people that believe in violence can conintue to preach their shit all over us. Disallow Moslems into our country. That is the only way to control them. Let them rot in their enviromentally devastated desert. Fuck them.

This isnt about religion.... religion is being used as justification to mold the minds of the young..... I dont think anyone with a decent lifestyle and some mula in the bank would ever consider being the pawn...do you???
 
Quote from TradEStar:

Socialist Party wins victory in Spain's election just as the al-Qaida wanted. Spain has now taught al-Qaida that terrorist bombings will work to achieve their objectives through fear and manipulation of the masses emotions. Spain could not have sent a worse message to the free world, then to embrace the appeasement policies of the Socialist Workers Party of the Left.

This can't be a good message for the European Markets tomorrow, and now we have direct al-Qaida ties to the bombings in Spain through those arrested.


Index Trader:
I agree with you totally! This is the leverage (Europe) that the terrorists want to use against the U.S. in the geopolitical play they are attempting, in which to weaken our stance (our election....Kerry) against our war with the terrorists. They just might succed if we are all so blind to this simple plan they have.

Don't forget that more than 90% of the spanish population was against the government support of the US invading Iraq. Is it possible we witnessed democracy at play in sunday's election ? Was it democracy succeeding or the terrorists succeeding, or maybe both ? Perhaps it was an unevitable election outcome ...
 
Quote from Gringinho:

Don't forget that more than 90% of the spanish population was against the government support of the US invading Iraq. Is it possible we witnessed democracy at play in sunday's election ? Was it democracy succeeding or the terrorists succeeding, or maybe both ? Perhaps it was an unevitable election outcome ...

That may be so, but it will still be an encouragement to al Qaida which is a very bad thing.

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Quote from MackieMesser:

That may be so, but it will still be an encouragement to al Qaida which is a very bad thing.

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So, your conclusion is "out with democracy" and in with "do the opposite of what the enemy/people trying to kill us wants" because "what's bad for the enemy is good for us" ?
Are you talking as one who might be victimized by terrorists or more in terms of geopolitical or military strategy, where there always are some 'collateral damages' ?
If explosions started to go off all around you, what would you be voting ? Do you have a "Banzai!" bumper-sticker on your car ?

Just to illustrate the implications of your stance. ;-)
 
Quote from Gringinho:

I think this idea already was covered in the muslim Sharia Laws ...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=sharia+law

In Nigeria, they wanted to stone a woman who had a child out of wedlock. In Saudi Arabia the frequently decapitate peopleThieves will get their hands cut off.
So, as you see, quite a large part of the world agrees with you.

In the US, you can get your brain cooked at 5000 volts as well. It does not kill you instantly, because electricity needs to be applied sufficently for cardia arrest, and also needs to pass through the heart.
(I was doing som e research some time back for my 36 000V wet-sprinkling-water (higher conductivity than only touching metal) electric fence here in Brasil. The problem is that it still is a lethal fence, with a high efficency coil from a <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=car&v=55">car</a> coupled with some switches from indicator lights with a <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=car&v=55">car</a> <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=battery&v=55">battery</a> source. I would like to have +3 second pulses as they will make any intruder fall to the ground and become dizzy etc. for around 15+ minutes. My fence still makes the intruder fall to the ground, only he won't get up again.)
 
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