Quote from Scientist:
I say it again: Trading is Trading. What you trade in makes no difference.
Science is exactly the reason why the zero-sum game doesn't work in everybody's advantage, including that of Neanderthalensis.
Science has created advantage. This advantage logically creates disadvantage for those on the other side of the deal.
You're talking of "progress". You're mixing up advance with advantage. Science is created for advantage, not advance.
"Advance" or "Progress" is something that is completely relative. You may say we have a better life today then 500 years ago, and I may say the opposite. Both of us could prove our point if need be. I would argue that in the last 100 years, we have made no progress at all, from an environmental and life quality point of view. In fact, we went backwards.
Science is nothing but the means to get a competitive edge over others.
Telecommunication and Flight were, like most other large "advances" of science and technology, initially created for the purpose of war. I know, because my Grandfather created one of the first functional aeroplanes ever, brought large advances to the aviation industry and founded the first Airline to serve Western Australia. He wrote about it in his books, and he said, 50 years later, looking at Jet Fighters and Bombers, similarly to Albert Einstein, that if he had known how much destruction his research would bring, he'd done something else with his life.
Medicine has, in a large sense, done the same thing. Medicine you see as something great in your limited view of the world.
The reality is that Medicine has done nothing but bring the balance of life on this planet into disarray by immunizing us against death and disease. While you think that's great, from a "mother earth" point of view, it isn't. We're suffering immense overpopulation and it is almost necessary for us to reduce our population or this planet will burn. This overpopulation can no longer be sustained, said even the Dalai Lama - World Advocate of Peace, equality and compassion...
So yeah, the only point in which you're right is that blood contributed to all these achievements.
Regarding "real job" - What the F^%^ do you mean? What is a "real job" then by your definition???
A "job" generally means trading time for money. It's a trade, just like you buying e-mini futures.
Unless you can give me some valid counter-arguments now, I assume that your point of view is nothing but an empty hull of preoccupation shaped by whatever paradigms society has exposed you to.
Keep it coming, buddy. But you should know who you're taking on before you go on. I hope you come up with something nice.
Sincerely,
~The Scientist
Oh well. first of all. you mentioned our society is zero-sum.
And I made an counter argumenet. Now you seem to escape from the point.
Let's stop off-topic 'Science Good or Bad?' or 'Are we happier than back in old days?'
A kid also can see science is BAD because it created a Nuclear Bomb !!, right?
Science. I admit it has the both possitive and neggative. You konw what? The reason I meantion the life-long-span of human is it is the easiest and obvious expamle. Science gave us life. You cannot deny it, do you?? unless you hate life..
>>While you think that's great, from a "mother earth" point of view, it isn't.
LOL, it reminds me "You, human are disease" by Agent Mr.Smith in MATRIX.
I will keep positing more.

