Sometimes I think that trading is a very bad job

Quote from Scientist:


I say it again: Trading is Trading. What you trade in makes no difference.

Science is exactly the reason why the zero-sum game doesn't work in everybody's advantage, including that of Neanderthalensis.

Science has created advantage. This advantage logically creates disadvantage for those on the other side of the deal.

You're talking of "progress". You're mixing up advance with advantage. Science is created for advantage, not advance.

"Advance" or "Progress" is something that is completely relative. You may say we have a better life today then 500 years ago, and I may say the opposite. Both of us could prove our point if need be. I would argue that in the last 100 years, we have made no progress at all, from an environmental and life quality point of view. In fact, we went backwards.

Science is nothing but the means to get a competitive edge over others.

Telecommunication and Flight were, like most other large "advances" of science and technology, initially created for the purpose of war. I know, because my Grandfather created one of the first functional aeroplanes ever, brought large advances to the aviation industry and founded the first Airline to serve Western Australia. He wrote about it in his books, and he said, 50 years later, looking at Jet Fighters and Bombers, similarly to Albert Einstein, that if he had known how much destruction his research would bring, he'd done something else with his life.

Medicine has, in a large sense, done the same thing. Medicine you see as something great in your limited view of the world.
The reality is that Medicine has done nothing but bring the balance of life on this planet into disarray by immunizing us against death and disease. While you think that's great, from a "mother earth" point of view, it isn't. We're suffering immense overpopulation and it is almost necessary for us to reduce our population or this planet will burn. This overpopulation can no longer be sustained, said even the Dalai Lama - World Advocate of Peace, equality and compassion...

So yeah, the only point in which you're right is that blood contributed to all these achievements.

Regarding "real job" - What the F^%^ do you mean? What is a "real job" then by your definition???

A "job" generally means trading time for money. It's a trade, just like you buying e-mini futures.

Unless you can give me some valid counter-arguments now, I assume that your point of view is nothing but an empty hull of preoccupation shaped by whatever paradigms society has exposed you to.

Keep it coming, buddy. But you should know who you're taking on before you go on. I hope you come up with something nice.


Sincerely,
~The Scientist

Oh well. first of all. you mentioned our society is zero-sum.
And I made an counter argumenet. Now you seem to escape from the point.

Let's stop off-topic 'Science Good or Bad?' or 'Are we happier than back in old days?'

A kid also can see science is BAD because it created a Nuclear Bomb !!, right?

Science. I admit it has the both possitive and neggative. You konw what? The reason I meantion the life-long-span of human is it is the easiest and obvious expamle. Science gave us life. You cannot deny it, do you?? unless you hate life..

>>While you think that's great, from a "mother earth" point of view, it isn't.

LOL, it reminds me "You, human are disease" by Agent Mr.Smith in MATRIX.

I will keep positing more.
 
Quote from gerry875:

i doubt that somebody who thinks trading is a bad job can ever be consistently profitable.

maybe it's got something to do with religion - like "i'm so guilty - i am and was a bad bad boy - so i have to donate ..." (or whatever - i don't care about religion).

but anyway - great post scientist - medicine and so on ...

and do you think pharma industry invents new pills because they wanna help all the poor sick people? yeah - of course ...

I humbly segregate my method to earn money that is trading and my contribution to the society that is other than trading.

I don't say it's BAD, and I said I live with this.
 
Trading is a real job only problem is that every person who sits in front of a machine thinks that they are traders which is not true.
We don't take the easy way through life with guaranteed salaries or the comfort of always knowing where our next pay check is coming from,but there is a select group of us out there that are confident of what our capabilities are .If you are not one of them you should get a job that offers security not only for yourself but for your family don't say this in a negative manor,only from stance of concern because i have seen a lot of good people get hurt in this industry because they didn't know when it was time to move on.
 
I think every person considers their profession a good one or they would not pursue that career.
I do think our profession is one of the hardest things to be successful at .
That is why I take a tremendous amount of pride in what I do because I feel that most professionals envy us.
I do think Doctors are more important to the world than a trader
but besides doctors,teachers, & some other very important people that are critical in our every day lives but I don't put lawyers, accountants,& many other professions in front of us.
 
Quote from cmuro:

Trading is a real job only problem is that every person who sits in front of a machine thinks that they are traders which is not true.
We don't take the easy way through life with guaranteed salaries or the comfort of always knowing where our next pay check is coming from,but there is a select group of us out there that are confident of what our capabilities are .If you are not one of them you should get a job that offers security not only for yourself but for your family don't say this in a negative manor,only from stance of concern because i have seen a lot of good people get hurt in this industry because they didn't know when it was time to move on.

which job gives guaranteed salary on the long run? do they all really know where the next checks come from? security?
 
Quote from SmoothTraderFX:


Science. I admit it has the both possitive and neggative. You konw what? The reason I meantion the life-long-span of human is it is the easiest and obvious expamle. Science gave us life. You cannot deny it, do you?? unless you hate life..
LOL :p

"Science gave us life"... What did your parents tell you buddy? Did they get to the 'birds and bees' thing yet or are they waiting till after primary to tell you the truth?

You are trippin' man... :D

~Scientist
 
Quote from Scientist:


LOL :p

"Science gave us life"... What did your parents tell you buddy? Did they get to the 'birds and bees' thing yet or are they waiting till after primary to tell you the truth?

You are trippin' man... :D

~Scientist

Well, haven't you read The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan??
"Science gave us life"... this is a quote from his book, and sorry I can't credit you more than him.
Seems like your argument is really immature like highschool student in terms of science.
Please read the book, and come back :cool:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...002-1937423-2652004?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
 
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