socialism in America.

is socialism coming to America?

  • yes

    Votes: 12 41.4%
  • no

    Votes: 9 31.0%
  • yes in the form of crony capitalism

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • yes in the form of too much regulation

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
Is that the generally accepted meaning of red = left wing or the US version red = right wing republican ?


As defined as historically GOP-voting. You can define their political-philosophy. Perhaps it means hypocritical, cognitively-dissonant, uneducated, rural and on the dole.
 
The aristocracy in the US isn’t wealth, it’s education: kids who go to Ivy’s and become the professors, doctors, top end lawyers, engineers at top companies, and entrepreneurs. They marry other ivy leaguers and their kids go to Ivy’s (where legacy helps a lot) and the cycle continues.
That's a good point. My kids go to public school and I would guess that if you did a multiple regression on academic performance versus parents education, race, family income....That parent's education would explain at least 75% of the differences in children's performance if not more. Unfortunately this is an uncomfortable area to study for two reasons; the people doing the studying are part of the sample plus you might end up finding a genetic basis for intelligence that would be, shall we say, inconvenient.

I sometimes feel the anti-intellectualism of the MAGA crowd is the modern day equivalent of past peasant revolutions, it's just that the have-nots now lack intellect compared to the elites versus money in the past..
 
The aristocracy in the US isn’t wealth, it’s education: kids who go to Ivy’s and become the professors, doctors, top end lawyers, engineers at top companies, and entrepreneurs. They marry other ivy leaguers and their kids go to Ivy’s (where legacy helps a lot) and the cycle continues.


*Excluding Penn (Trump)
 
*Excluding Penn (Trump)
I used to think the same thing about HBS and W, but at the end of the day both schools can claim that one of their alumni was President. Although I understand in Penn's case they're not exactly thrilled.
 
I sometimes feel the anti-intellectualism of the MAGA crowd is the modern day equivalent of past peasant revolutions, it's just that the have-nots now lack intellect compared to the elites versus money in the past..

More like Pol Pot.
 
I used to think the same thing about HBS and W, but at the end of the day both schools can claim that one of their alumni was President. Although I understand in Penn's case they're not exactly thrilled.

As much as I despise the decision to enter into two wars and him being led around by the nose by Wolfowitz and Cheney... he realizes and understands the mistakes that he made. My wife is a Prescott (Bush43 cousin) and she spoke to him last year for the first time in probably 20. lol she forgives him so I guess I can as well.
 
As long as the US people are happy with their capitalist system , I am pleased for them and they are welcome to it.
Now that their number one status is under threat we shall have to wait and see how it holds up.
Has Trump got the answers ?
 
As long as the US people are happy with their capitalist system , I am pleased for them and they are welcome to it.
Now that their number one status is under threat we shall have to wait and see how it holds up.
Has Trump got the answers ?


An unintentionally illuminating and helpful post.

Members of a capitalist society generally have the free choice to change their own political system, and this can include incorporating a little socialism, some socialism or a lot of socialism. Such a freedom is implicit in the capitalist model.

Generally, members of a fully socialist society have no freedom to change the socialist model of their regime. Freedom to change the political structure away from socialism is anti-socialist and has to be an immediate casualty of the introduction of socialism.
 
An unintentionally illuminating and helpful post.

Members of a capitalist society generally have the free choice to change their own political system, and this can include incorporating a little socialism, some socialism or a lot of socialism. Such a freedom is implicit in the capitalist model.

Generally, members of a fully socialist society have no freedom to change the socialist model of their regime. Freedom to change the political structure away from socialism is anti-socialist and has to be an immediate casualty of the introduction of socialism.
Countries in a hurry to become first world powers will probably opt for the China system of being nominally Communist but financially capitalist. So no divisive political ideas are allowed by the people. It ALL has to be funnelled through the one Party machine and decided by the elite at the top.
 
Poverty is a problem in all countries: relative poverty is nit, its just BS. As for starvation in the capitalist west, who are you kidding? Obesity seems to be killing more people than starving to death.

However, to deal with poverty it is not necessary to destroy the capitalist society, it is simply a matter of making available to the offspring of the poor all the opportunity that good health, housing and education can obtain. And all these are paid for through successful GDP. And that comes from capitalism. Ask any North Korean if you're not sure.
You're arguing with someone who considers Brazil a capitalist country, and even more, Rio a capitalist state.:)

Rio is BY FAR one of the most socialist states in Brazil. So socialist, that it is a "mini Venezuela". The state has literally declared bankrupcy and is very well known for having the biggest public/centralized institutions relative to other states in the country which not surprisingly provide services that are terrible and the "cariocas"(people from Rio de Janeiro state) are literally fleeing the state to other states, because they can't take that shit anymore(Not that the other states are much better, but compared to Rio, they're heaven).

Given the level of ignorance of someone saying crap like that, it is truly a waste of time to talk to someone like that...:)
 
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