socialism in America.

is socialism coming to America?

  • yes

    Votes: 12 41.4%
  • no

    Votes: 9 31.0%
  • yes in the form of crony capitalism

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • yes in the form of too much regulation

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
If anyone proposes a fascist state I would have to oppose it.
There is the slight problem of opposing dictators and that is survival.
Would masses of people rise in indignation over your disappearance ?
Probably not.
In the 1930s Stalin issued instructions to his commissars to round up and liquidate 10% of their city population which squashed any opposition. Guess who would have been at the top of the list ?
The dictators have no moral constraints.
He liquidated many of the Red Army's officers in case they were hatching plots to de-throne him.
 
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There is the slight problem of opposing dictators and that is survival.
Would masses of people rise in indignation over your disappearance ?
Probably not.
In the 1930s Stalin issued instructions to his commissars to round up and liquidate 10% of their city population which squashed any opposition. Guess who would have been at the top of the list ?
The dictators have no moral constraints.
This is correct... But then again, there was this thing called the American Revolution, which was triggered by tax increases, like the taxes being discussed here(which socialists love)... And that worked out pretty well in removing the tyrant of the time... Add to that the most heavily armed population in the world with a big distrust of government.... And things become pretty balanced...:)
 
There is the slight problem of opposing dictators and that is survival.
Would masses of people rise in indignation over your disappearance ?
Probably not.
In the 1930s Stalin issued instructions to his commissars to round up and liquidate 10% of their city population which squashed any opposition. Guess who would have been at the top of the list ?
The dictators have no moral constraints.
He liquidated many of the Red Army's officers in case they were hatching plots to de-throne him.


Well you asked the question and I answered it truthfully, dispassionately and promptly.

If you don't like the answer its tough on you, you should have put some escape clause into your wording, some wriggle room, some get-out clause. I say fascists and socialists are the same from the proletariat's point of view but it seems you can't even accept that. Is that not the definition of an ideologue?
 
Well you asked the question and I answered it truthfully, dispassionately and promptly.

If you don't like the answer its tough on you, you should have put some escape clause into your wording, some wriggle room, some get-out clause. I say fascists and socialists are the same from the proletariat's point of view but it seems you can't even accept that. Is that not the definition of an ideologue?
Calm down Tom. Yes I agree, dictatorship is even worse than chaotic democracy.
The perfect system has yet to be invented.
 
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The more financial globalization there has been the greater incidence of financial crises as well as their severity. There was a time when you looked at these things, when Mexico or Brazil or Russia or India were going through financial crises, and you said there is a problem with those countries, they mismanaged their economies, but when the United States or the Eurozone were having their crises, you suddenly knew that there was something systemic going on, that it was in the nature of the free flow of capital.
 
Calm down Tom. Yes I agree, dictatorship is even worse than chaotic democracy.
The perfect system has yet to be invented.
As Churchill apocryphally said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others."
 
The framework of democracy MUST have the means to stop dictatorial people trying to take total power and the crooked schemes the representatives are often associated with.
i.e. a strong and most importantly separate legal system. Where slimey politicians can't sack or intimidate the judges.
 
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