socialism in America.

[Slartibartfast]

No problem. You can answer it in the other thread, if you are ever able to do it. Even though I obviously doubt it, otherwise you would have answered by now...
And you are, as always, still evading my arguments on this thread about the current subject. Not surprisingly...
We'll simply add to your list of lost arguments. No problem. You and your socialist friends are simply a blast... It is always a pleasure to see you embarass yourselves and get tangled up in your own bullshit and contradictions.

Keep it up!

You must be a very happy Brazilian, all those smileys. Einstein was sure right about that stupidity being permanent.

For anyone reading (why would you), not NeoTrader, he got his answer but just kept doing the child trick of ignoring it. His assertion falls in to the popular new academic category of "not even wrong".

He is only a Brazilian, their best universities are pretty low to meh grade. My girlfriend speaks Portuguese and attended University of Sao Paulo for a year post-grad which is ranked 120 in the world. Not bad 120 in 2016 but that is about it she says, a couple of also rans but way too much garbage 3rd level for a large nation.

I've been to a lot of third world places so I learned, the ones with chips on their shoulders because of a poor education you can't fight, they beat you with their experience.

Brazil is a great example of how not to manage educational meritocracy, not capitalism or socialism. The quality of a countries universities is connected to it's populace's general brain power one might assume at least in large part.

 

[Neuroway]

I completely agree with everything you just said. And as you fit the perfect definition of stupid(no offense, I'm simply using your own definition of stupid... Which is the case, since you're a socialist who believes in something that has been proven again and again not to work in the USSR, North Korea, China, Venezuela, etc, etc... ), you should take your own words in consideration and observe how paradoxical it is for someone to say what you just said and still believe this crap.

Hmm... I happen to live in socialist countries most of the year. I never said I was a socialist or never showed signs of submitting my self to any tribe, religion, majority or minority. And I never said I believe in anything. However, you just said that I'm a socialist and I believe in something that has been proven again and again not to work.

Let me tell you what I believe, dear Neo. Sincerely. I believe that you believe that I'm a socialist believing in something that has been proven wrong again and again. Why? Because you just said so and I believe you're not a liar. Yeah. That's what I believe. Logic. Call it my faith in humanity.

 

[SunTrader]

...stupidity being perminant.
...

perminant what's that?

Never having to gargle each morning anymore.

 

[Slartibartfast]

perminant what's that?

Never having to gargle each morning anymore.

That is writing on a Spanish install of windows where everything has a red underline in English.

I fixed it but well spotted. I just use a waterpick now after bruising with Sensodyne. A great invention the cordless version.

Edited, actually spelled 'Waterpik', I'm sure you would have spotted that.

 

[NeoTrader]

You must be a very happy Brazilian, all those smileys. Einstein was sure right about that stupidity being permanent.

For anyone reading (why would you), not NeoTrader, he got his answer but just kept doing the child trick of ignoring it. His assertion falls in to the popular new academic category of "not even wrong".

He is only a Brazilian, their best universities are pretty low to meh grade. My girlfriend speaks Portuguese and attended University of Sao Paulo for a year post-grad which is ranked 120 in the world. Not bad 120 in 2016 but that is about it she says, a couple of also rans but way too much garbage 3rd level for a large nation.

I've been to a lot of third world places so I learned, the ones with chips on their shoulders because of a poor education you can't fight, they beat you with their experience.

Brazil is a great example of how not to manage educational meritocracy, not capitalism or socialism. The quality of a countries universities is connected to it's populace's general brain power one might assume at least in large part.

And despite all that bullshit, you still can't answer the questions I made and got your ass kicked through your own arguments twice. Not being able to answer, as usual, you answer with the usual personal bullshit: the usual resort of people who can't use logic to defend their position. Nothing knew... Keep it up!

 

[Slartibartfast]

And despite all that bullshit, you still can't answer the questions I made and got your ass kicked through your own arguments twice. Not being able to answer, as usual, you answer with the usual personal bullshit: the usual resort of people who can't use logic to defend their position. Nothing knew... Keep it up!

Again, I answered it. Correlation... come on.. you know how that one ends. You started the personal BS I recall. Now please respect the OPs threat.

As a citizen of these two countries, I may be a bit idealistic about the whole idea of successful socialism.

Of course socialistic does not mean pure socialist. Which does not work, as does not pure capitalist so.. why argue absolutes.

Ayn Rand Fun Fact #3
Personal hygiene wasn’t her strong suit. In fact, during the years of his mandated bi-weekly Rand-banging, Nathaniel Branden pleaded with his wife Barbara to discreetly ask Rand to bathe more frequently.

Ayn Rand Fun Fact # 35
Rand’s husband Frank was so quiet around the house that he often startled her while she worked. So she made him wear a bell.

(Seriously, that woman was a cruel lady).

 

[NeoTrader]

Hmm... I happen to live in socialist countries most of the year. I never said I was a socialist or never showed signs of submitting my self to any tribe, religion, majority or minority. And I never said I believe in anything. However, you just said that I'm a socialist and I believe in something that has been proven again and again not to work.

Let me tell you what I believe, dear Neo. Sincerely. I believe that you believe that I'm a socialist believing in something that has been proven wrong again and again. Why? Because you just said so and I believe you're not a liar. Yeah. That's what I believe. Logic. Call it my faith in humanity.

Dear Neuroway, you said it yourself that you believe Communism is "the most moral of all systems". It wasn't me who said that. And anyone with the least amount of will to see things as they are, through logic, can see the short video I posted of Milton Friedman on the Immorality of Socialism and see why it is in fact the most IMMORAL of all systems. In a nutshell: because it is based on force.

 

[NeoTrader]

Again, I answered it. Correlation...

No, you didn't. Feel free to refer the post where you did. I'd be happy to answer it. But, since you didn't, obviously you'll come up with some lame excuse not to, which is what you've been doing all along and is shown by your continous evasion from my arguments, usually with some form of personal offense.(Which I never did towards you, despite your endless stream of personal offenses and remarks, like talking about my "alledged" age, using words like moron, etc,etc...
I may think your ideas are bullshit, but that is not a personal attack, it is simply my take on your ideas, not yourself)
The fact that you cannot defend your ideas with logic is your fault, not mine.But I can see your frustration and the reason you keep doing the personal attack/remark thing.
That's OK. Maybe someday your learn to argue in a civilized way and use logic to back your argument.. I sincerely doubt it, given the samples you already showed time and time again... But, truth be told, I don't give a shit. So, I'm done with you here.

 

[Slartibartfast]

No, you didn't. Feel free to refer the post where you did. I'd be happy to answer it. But, since you didn't, obviously you'll come up with some lame excuse not to, which is what you've been doing all along and is shown by your continous evasion from my arguments, usually with some form of personal offense.(Which I never did towards you, despite your endless stream of personal offenses and remarks, like talking about my "alledged" age, using words like moron, etc,etc...
I may think your ideas are bullshit, but that is not a personal attack, it is simply my take on your ideas, not yourself)
The fact that you cannot defend your ideas with logic is your fault, not mine.But I can see your frustration and the reason you keep doing the personal attack/remark thing.
That's OK. Maybe someday your learn to argue in a civilized way and use logic to back your argument.. I sincerely doubt it, given the samples you already showed time and time again... But, truth be told, I don't give a shit. So, I'm done with you here.

In POLITICS dear boy. Make a thread, stop dirtying up other people's. You posts get deleted for a reason, your breaking the law (..breaking the law, so much for the golden future I can't even start..breakin.. etc.)

Every smiley of yours is an intentional offense Anyway, making fun of Rand is all just fruit of a poisoned tree. Rand = crazy psycho woman ∴ don't quote her as gospel and expect a serious response.

Also when talking to a guy who lives in Medellin Colombia.. you kind of let yourself down implying superior knowledge out of the gate there regarding Pablo Escobar.

 

[jl1575]

I think some perspective on the variety of systems is important. This list is light on capitalism, but can't be bothered looking for better however as there is no functioning pure capitalist system about.. can't be helped maybe.




SOCIALISM: You have two cows. State takes one and give it to someone else.

COMMUNISM: You have two cows. State takes both of them and gives you milk.

FASCISM: You have two cows. State takes both of them and sell you milk.

NAZISM: You have two cows. State takes both of them and shoot you.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. State takes both of them, kill one and spill the milk in system of sewage.

CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Alternative: A COWSMIC VIEW OF WORLD ORGANIZATION

FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and as many eggs as the regulations say you should need.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them, and sells you the milk.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and shoots you.

SINGAPORE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. The government fines you for keeping two unlicensed animals in an apartment.

MILITARIANISM: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: The government promises to give you two cows if you vote for it. After the election, the president is impeached for speculating in cow futures. The press dubs the affair "Cowgate".

BRITISH DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. You feed them sheep's brains and they go mad. The government doesn't do anything.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. After that it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors kill you and take the cows.

CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

HONG KONG CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax deduction for keeping five cows. The milk rights of six cows are transferred via a Panamanian intermediary to a Cayman Islands company secretly owned by the majority shareholder, who sells the rights to all seven cows' milk back to the listed company. The annual report says that the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. Meanwhile, you kill the two cows because the Feng Shui is bad.

ENVIRONMENTALISM: You have two cows. The government bans you from milking or killing them.

FEMINISM: You have two cows. They get married and adopt a veal calf.

TOTALITARIANISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and denies they ever existed. Milk is banned.

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS: You are associated with (the concept of "ownership"is a symbol of the phallo-centric, war-mongering, intolerant past) two differently-aged (but no less valuable to society) bovines of non-specified gender.

COUNTER CULTURE: Wow, dude, there's like... these two cows, man. You got to have some of this milk. Far out! Awesome!

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

JAPANESE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. You give the milk to gangsters so they don't ask any awkward questions about who you're giving the milk to.

EUROPEAN FEDERALISM: You have two cows which cost too much money to care for because everybody is buying milk imported from some cheap east-European country and would never pay the fortune you'd have to ask for your cows' milk. So you apply for financial aid from the European Union to subsidise your cows and are granted enough subsidies. You then sell your milk at the former elevated price to some government-owned distributor which then dumps your milk onto the market at east-European prices to make Europe competitive. You spend the money you got as a subsidy on two new cows and then go on a demonstration to Brussels complaining that the European farm-policy is going drive you out of your job.

EASTERN EUROPEAN DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. You sell the milk (diluted with some water) at a high price to the neighbors or to anyone at the open-air market. If somebody asks for receipt, you charge for a two times higher price, so nobody will request an invoice. For concerned families with small babies you claim that the milk is "bio", though you collect the grass for feeding at the side of the highway and you keep the milk in plastic barrels used previously as containers of dangerous chemicals. Later, your neighbor or anybody from town will steal the cows and will buy their meat for a high price, and if you ask for a receipt, you will be charged for a two times higher price.

FINNISH SOCIALISM: You have two cows. Soon you have to kill one of them because in the Netherlands there is an overproduction of milk and the European Union rules say so. When you do so, you realize that it was not necessary, only the system was too slow in getting you the up-to-date news. From the stress, you get an ulcer in your stomach so you go to a doctor. The doctor realizes that this ulcer is a serious one, so you need an urgent treatment. Therefore, you soon get a call to the local hospital. The call's date is for 3 months later, because there is a queue with more urgent cases. Then your ulcer becomes even more serious because you remember that 40 percent of your income is taken for social tax.

You must have been traveling and reading a LOT!
It is fun to read!