Quote from Tsing Tao:
Jem, when did you last read Ayn Rand, and what, specifically do you support of her thinking?
Quote from jem:
I have never read Ayn Rand.
However, a decade ago people told me I should read it all the time. I presume because I echoed some of her ideas.
I did see the Atlas shrugged movie on netflix about 6 months ago.
But, it seemed very shallow.
Not sure if it was the production, the original work or the fact that the original work has seen so much copying that it has become a bit worn out.
Quote from Ricter:
There are societies further left than ours, with higher taxes, yet with more social mobility.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobilityQuote from jem:
soviet union, china, europe The party the drones in the soviet union. Same with the edge fo the iron curtain.
in Europe from what I learned in my travels back in the 80s.. in the previous decades those with the govt connections got the schools and the jobs running the banks and other parts of the society.
central america... you were either in with the govt and taking bribes, one of the powerful wealthy families or you were a poor drone.
so I can't really think of too many lefty societies not containing thick castes. so you wish to give us some examples... I would be very interested.
None of that refutes what I said. They (remain) more socialistic than us, they collect more taxes than us, and yet they have greater social mobility than us (granted, the distance from bottom to top is not so great as ours).Quote from jem:
just about all those states were formerly very socialist and then became less socialist.
Which was not inconsistent with my statement while traveling in the 80s. Most of Europe if not all of Europe was getting less socialist. so of course they gained mobility.