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So where are all the IRS-Obama Scandle People now that the Truth is coming out?
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Quote from jem:
I think you can say that dollar for dollar we have one of the least productive teachers in the world.
I am not saying our teachers suck... I am saying that the system has been put in place that encourages mediocrity or worse and frequently underserves the smart and hardworking kids... it rewards far to many administrators with huge salaries and is not willing to reward teachers based on merit. so we dump a ton of taxpayers in and get relatively poor results.
Good private schools run circles around the run of the mill public school in the US. The selective enrollment is crucial, otherwise a teacher is forced to cater to the remedial students the entire schoolyear.
Quote from denner:
Good private schools run circles around the run of the mill public school in the US. The selective enrollment is crucial, otherwise a teacher is forced to cater to the remedial students the entire schoolyear.
well if the public schools had some non pc guts they would track the kids into different class rooms so the smart kids did not waste 50% of the elementary school years.
You and denner are basically describing methods for growing a caste system in the US.Quote from jem:
well if the public schools had some non pc guts they would track the kids into different class rooms so the smart kids did not waste 50% of the elementary school years.
Small differences in early conditions result in large differences in late conditions. And in a highly stratified society the rich kids are quite different from the poor kids. I'm not "crying" about it, but any man who has really thought about the big picture of his life and the lives of others realizes just how much luck there is in the family you're born into. It's all luck, actually.
Your incredibly stupid commie - let's make everybody a drone - mentality is disturbing.Quote from Ricter:
You and denner are basically describing methods for growing a caste system in the US.
It is only natural and healthy to put slower and unwilling students in classes that are specifically structured to help them without dragging others in a class down to their level.
I suppose schools that cater to the gifted are another example of turning America into a caste system.
You are a fucking moron, Rectum. Just STFU. You are too stupid to be commenting on most of the subjects here.
what a bunch of shit ricter.
Personal Income taxes creates less fluid classes and power for cronies and their politicians. The IRS scandals just gave you some insight.
if you can't keep what you make you can't challenge the cronies.
Cronyism creates the party the politicians - the drones - and the elite who pull the strings.
The education system is the exact system the dems want.
They want a society of needy drones.
Til I was 12, I went to school in the nyc school system.
P.S. 98 in Douglas Manor Queens N.Y.
I really liked my elementary school.
They separated out the classes in 1st grade by skills.
By 4th we were reading Shakespeare.
We had all sorts of challenging math opportunities.
We had chess clubs and competitions.
If you did well in class you were rewarded with activities.
They were trying to train great students and thinkers.
In seventh grade junior high was mugged for my bus pass 3 times. (they believe it had access to all buses and subways for free... but mine was not that pass.)
So my mom told my dad private schools.
My Dad said we will move to Greenwich Ct and go to public schools.
The NYC schools were just as good as the Greenwich public schools which were better than the Greenwich private schools by a long shot if you were advanced. The private schools did have good college connections.... but the public schools were still better.
That whole philosophy of challenging the best students to be the very best from elementary up... seems to be entirely missing from the system. It is drilled out of the teachers. The smart teachers lament they have to spend so much time teaching to the bottom of their classes and ignoring the top. Then even suggested the problem is that the classrooms are not tracked.
Its a choice made by the leftists and the democrats to raise drones for their voters and their crony donors.
If not, the system could be change in a week. Just track the kids.
Everything the left stands for is drones for cronies.
Everything libertarians stand for is make your opportunity in a dynamic class structure where you get to keep what you earn and have a chance to do what ever you want to be.
Personal Income taxes creates less fluid classes and power for cronies and their politicians. The IRS scandals just gave you some insight.
if you can't keep what you make you can't challenge the cronies.
Cronyism creates the party the politicians - the drones - and the elite who pull the strings.
The education system is the exact system the dems want.
They want a society of needy drones.
Til I was 12, I went to school in the nyc school system.
P.S. 98 in Douglas Manor Queens N.Y.
I really liked my elementary school.
They separated out the classes in 1st grade by skills.
By 4th we were reading Shakespeare.
We had all sorts of challenging math opportunities.
We had chess clubs and competitions.
If you did well in class you were rewarded with activities.
They were trying to train great students and thinkers.
In seventh grade junior high was mugged for my bus pass 3 times. (they believe it had access to all buses and subways for free... but mine was not that pass.)
So my mom told my dad private schools.
My Dad said we will move to Greenwich Ct and go to public schools.
The NYC schools were just as good as the Greenwich public schools which were better than the Greenwich private schools by a long shot if you were advanced. The private schools did have good college connections.... but the public schools were still better.
That whole philosophy of challenging the best students to be the very best from elementary up... seems to be entirely missing from the system. It is drilled out of the teachers. The smart teachers lament they have to spend so much time teaching to the bottom of their classes and ignoring the top. Then even suggested the problem is that the classrooms are not tracked.
Its a choice made by the leftists and the democrats to raise drones for their voters and their crony donors.
If not, the system could be change in a week. Just track the kids.
Everything the left stands for is drones for cronies.
Everything libertarians stand for is make your opportunity in a dynamic class structure where you get to keep what you earn and have a chance to do what ever you want to be.
Quote from Ricter:
You and denner are basically describing methods for growing a caste system in the US.
Small differences in early conditions result in large differences in late conditions. And in a highly stratified society the rich kids are quite different from the poor kids. I'm not "crying" about it, but any man who has really thought about the big picture of his life and the lives of others realizes just how much luck there is in the family you're born into. It's all luck, actually.
Imo you give taxes way too much causative power. I think that's mostly the result of your living in a high tax state, and partly a result of your love of the writings of Ayn Rand.Quote from jem:
what a bunch of shit ricter.
Personal Income taxes creates less fluid classes and power for cronies and their politicians. The IRS scandals just gave you some insight.
Quote from Ricter:
Imo you give taxes way too much causative power. I think that's mostly the result of your living in a high tax state, and partly a result of your love of the writings of Ayn Rand.
nevertheless throughout history the bigger and more left the govt the thicker the class structure.
drones for cronies is what you support.