So, what am I missing ?

Hey folks,

During the past few months, I have been studying about TA and price action trading. But I am so stuck and can not move on any further. I always have this question in my mind which I can't find a persuasive answer to it. If there is a pattern/ strategy/ edge to consistently beat the market using price action and charts then competition from other traders should make it disappear or at least make it difficult to beat the market after costs. (the edge should self-defeats).

In other words, beating the market using past price data seems too good to be true because if it is not the case then that would be very easy for everyone to do the same. It is very reasonable to believe that the massive competition should eventually make any advantage/ edge self-defeat and stop working. So, what am I missing here guys ?

Sorry for my average English. And thanks in advance

Your perception on this is generally correct. You can't just find some pattern or anomaly in markets and just consistently exploit it, as you need to assume everyone else can and will. You need to accept this premise and then think about situations and techniques that might work in spite of this.

Anything you can program into an algorithym, any technicsl indicators calculated by comuputer are unlikely to provide a competitive edge. Any single pattern or price assessment unlikely. Daily and other small timeframes more exposed to noise or direct manipulations of price.

What can work is discretionary chart reading not automated as it relies on individual skill and training. Using combinations of TA to interpret direction, e.g. combined price, pattern, time techniques to read the chart and seek confirmation. Use longer timeframes and weekly and monthly charts avoids the noise and gives more reliable signals.
 
Your perception on this is generally correct. You can't just find some pattern or anomaly in markets and just consistently exploit it, as you need to assume everyone else can and will. You need to accept this premise and then think about situations and techniques that might work in spite of this.

Anything you can program into an algorithym, any technicsl indicators calculated by comuputer are unlikely to provide a competitive edge. Any single pattern or price assessment unlikely. Daily and other small timeframes more exposed to noise or direct manipulations of price.

What can work is discretionary chart reading not automated as it relies on individual skill and training. Using combinations of TA to interpret direction, e.g. combined price, pattern, time techniques to read the chart and seek confirmation. Use longer timeframes and weekly and monthly charts avoids the noise and gives more reliable signals.
Especially true if price action means patterns. There are no computers yet that can beat a human in pattern recognition. Submarine sonar operators, radiologists reading charts are other examples of brain better than AI. But you do need training to read correctly.
 
technical analysis does not mean price alone......it also means time......if you do not or cannot include time in your analysis you will be fighting a formidable enemy-market- with one hand tied behind your back.
that is what you are missing and that is what I have missed in 12 years of day trading.

I am fixing that deficiency and am getting astounding results
 
what are you missing?

Microsoft or any big company does not need you

but Goldman Sachs needs you.....to buy when they are selling and sell when they are buying.

There is your edge

when they want you to buy ..you sell

how to do that

figure it out
 
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Use longer timeframes and weekly and monthly charts avoids the noise
this is absurd

noise is not avoided by going to a larger time frame.

noise can only exist in the time frame being used.

there are trends in 5 min, in 15 min, in every time frame. there is noise in every time frame.
 
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Last night I watched 'Knives Out,' which I really enjoyed. I am in love right now with Ana de Armas. There are definitely hotter chicks in that manequiney modelly type mode, but she has to be one of the most adorable and beautiful girls I have ever seen. Oh good lord, those eyes!!
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chicks want money...lots of it
 
In other words, beating the market using past price data seems too good to be true because if it is not the case then that would be very easy for everyone to do the same. It is very reasonable to believe that the massive competition should eventually make any advantage/ edge self-defeat and stop working. So, what am I missing here guys ?

It's a very reasonable assumption to make as many do but not necessarily a correct one.

Incorrect assumptions are a type of 'blind spot' which can be very costly so you want to make sure you're right when you make them.
 
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