So much for those tough gun control laws

Canada should make guns illegal. That would probably help.

Er...hold on a second....

(note, my "like" to GWB's post is to show my support for his assertion on gun laws not working, NOT because of the tragedy).
 
Tsing Tao said:
Canada should make guns illegal. That would probably help.

Er...hold on a second....

(note, my "like" to GWB's post is to show my support for his assertion on gun laws not working, NOT because of the tragedy).
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Cherry picking the occasional crime story in Canada doesn't help change the very real data that shows the US is an extremely violent country where getting shot is far more likely then in Canada. It's not even open for debate, the numbers are staggering, the US has serious issues that most Canadians want no part of.

Gun laws clearly work, as the real data concerning the US and Canada proves. For you to assert that our gun laws don't work is not unlike declaring that the earth is flat.
 
gwb-trading said:
Five dead, two injured after shooting in Saskatchewan school
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/22/americas/saskatchewan-la-loche-school-shooting-canada/index.html

Gun control does not stop mass shootings in Canada or anywhere else.
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Gun control doesn't prevent all mass shootings or violent crime, it just makes them far less likely to occur. Care to see some numbers on this ? I looked quickly, in 2013, there were 33.169 deaths by gun in the US ( 11.208 homicides, 21, 175 suicides, 505 accidents, 281 "undetermined intent" ). Massive numbers. To compare, 131 homicides in Canada in 2013 using guns.
 
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Nine_Ender said:
Gun control doesn't prevent all mass shootings or violent crime, it just makes them far less likely to occur. Care to see some numbers on this ? I looked quickly, in 2013, there were 33.169 deaths by gun in the US ( 11.208 homicides, 21, 175 suicides, 505 accidents, 281 "undetermined intent" ). Massive numbers. To compare, 131 homicides in Canada in 2013 using guns.
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I would like to see the number of people killed by being trampled by moose in Canada last year. I would venture to guess it is far greater than the number of "death by moose" cases in the U.S. I don't hear anyone saying we need to go to Canada and ban or kill moose.

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gwb-trading said:
Five dead, two injured after shooting in Saskatchewan school
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/22/americas/saskatchewan-la-loche-school-shooting-canada/index.html

Gun control does not stop mass shootings in Canada or anywhere else.
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I was in Laloche when i was younger, for a wedding, me and my cousin went to the bar to try to pick up chicks in between the ceremonies, and the bartender straight up told us we shouldnt be there, its kind of fascinating going to some of these reserves, they get hundreds of millions from the government, and they look like third world shit holes, its pretty brutal cause there are some legit natives who care about the land and preservation, but just like the urban shitholes in the states all the leaders are thieving the money while their citizens live in squalor.
While we were at this wedding there was literally a shootout just next store to the hotel, while the wedding was on, its like a different planet on most of these reserves.
 
Nine_Ender said:
Gun control doesn't prevent all mass shootings or violent crime, it just makes them far less likely to occur. Care to see some numbers on this ? I looked quickly, in 2013, there were 33.169 deaths by gun in the US ( 11.208 homicides, 21, 175 suicides, 505 accidents, 281 "undetermined intent" ). Massive numbers. To compare, 131 homicides in Canada in 2013 using guns.
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Sigh...we've been through this statistical nonsense so many times. You know very well most of those killings were inner city gang shootouts. Adjust the data so that you are comparing likes to likes and there is little difference in the data, just as there is little difference in educational data, health care outcomes, etc.

There are examples of countries with widespread gun ownership, eg Switzerland, with low shootings and crime.

So what you are really suggesting is that blacks in the US shouldn't be allowed to own guns. Why don't you come out and say it?
 
Nine_Ender said:
Gun control doesn't prevent all mass shootings or violent crime, it just makes them far less likely to occur. Care to see some numbers on this ? I looked quickly, in 2013, there were 33.169 deaths by gun in the US ( 11.208 homicides, 21, 175 suicides, 505 accidents, 281 "undetermined intent" ). Massive numbers. To compare, 131 homicides in Canada in 2013 using guns.
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Can you explain all the mass shootings in Canada, Norway and other countries with strict gun control laws? Taking guns away from law abiding citizens simply makes them victims.

Statistically homicide deaths as per a percentage of the population in the U.S is less than many other western nations. Focusing on "gun deaths" rather than homicides is pure nonsense. Gun control simply creates more defenseless victims against stabbings, beatings, and other methods of causing deaths and harm.
 
At one time, not that long ago, the most dangerous neighborhood in the world for firearm homicide for a year was a section of Moscow, infested with Russian mafia. All "white", too, I might add.
 
Just a sample of the gun violence in this country yesterday: Three people were shot and killed and seven others shot and wounded yesterday and last night in Chicago (link). Two people were shot and killed in Cleveland last night (link). A woman was shot and wounded while watching a movie in a movie theater in Renton, WA last night (link). One person was shot and killed in Las Vegas, NV last night (link). One person was shot and wounded while driving on I-95 in West Palm Beach, FL last night (link). Two people were shot and killed in Kansas City, MO last night (link). A woman was shot and killed in Pittsburgh, PA last night (link). One person was shot and killed and another was shot and wounded in Vero Beach, FL yesterday (link).
 
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