So much for those tough gun control laws

[wildchild]

Just a sample of the gun violence in this country yesterday: Three people were shot and killed and seven others shot and wounded yesterday and last night in Chicago (link). Two people were shot and killed in Cleveland last night (link). A woman was shot and wounded while watching a movie in a movie theater in Renton, WA last night (link). One person was shot and killed in Las Vegas, NV last night (link). One person was shot and wounded while driving on I-95 in West Palm Beach, FL last night (link). Two people were shot and killed in Kansas City, MO last night (link). A woman was shot and killed in Pittsburgh, PA last night (link). One person was shot and killed and another was shot and wounded in Vero Beach, FL yesterday (link).

Sounds like a few less assholes I am going to have to deal with in traffic.

 

[futurecurrents]

Catawba County, North Carolina: Man Fatally Shot by Driver He Attempted to Help, Police Say

 

[Nine_Ender]

Can you explain all the mass shootings in Canada, Norway and other countries with strict gun control laws? Taking guns away from law abiding citizens simply makes them victims.

Statistically homicide deaths as per a percentage of the population in the U.S is less than many other western nations. Focusing on "gun deaths" rather than homicides is pure nonsense. Gun control simply creates more defenseless victims against stabbings, beatings, and other methods of causing deaths and harm.

You are roughly three times as likely to be murdered as a US resident then as a Canadian resident. By any means. Mass shooting data is also available online at various sources; it suffices to say that the US rate is much higher then the Canadian rate, and that Norway's data is skewed by one giant incident.

 

[Ricter]

Catawba County, North Carolina: Man Fatally Shot by Driver He Attempted to Help, Police Say

See? If those good samaritans had been armed this needn't have happened.

 

[gwb-trading]

See? If those good samaritans had been armed this needn't have happened.

That is pretty much what the Catawba Sherriff said if you read the local articles.

 

[Ricter]

That is pretty much what the Catawba Sherriff said if you read the local articles.

Would make a good comedy: whoever gets the drop on the other guy gets to help first.

 

[gwb-trading]

Would make a good comedy: whoever gets the drop on the other guy gets to help first.

To err on the side of caution maybe all the good Samaritans should simply shoot the driver who needs assistance first.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Gun laws clearly work, as the real data concerning the US and Canada proves. For you to assert that our gun laws don't work is not unlike declaring that the earth is flat.

If gun laws worked, someone wouldn't be able to shoot up a Canadian school as they just did. Saying that there are far fewer gun incidents in Canada isn't conclusive, since there are far fewer people. Additionally, there are orders of magnitude less guns in circulation in Canada than in the US. Gun laws should be able to actually impact life in Canada, as there aren't hundreds of millions of them on the street, with the vast number of illegal weapons (over 4 million at last quote) causing all the crime.

The fact is, guns laws are extremely tough and someone still shot up a school. You can say this is like saying the earth is flat, but that's about as asinine as everything else you post on a regular basis.

Neither you, nor Ricter, nor ParrotCurrents has any plan on how to solve the problem apart from "ban guns" which isn't a detailed solution, it's an ideal. This is mainly because the potential solutions require difficult decisions that would force you to accept paradigms you inherently consider to be racist, and thus will never consider seriously.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Sigh...we've been through this statistical nonsense so many times. You know very well most of those killings were inner city gang shootouts. Adjust the data so that you are comparing likes to likes and there is little difference in the data, just as there is little difference in educational data, health care outcomes, etc.

There are examples of countries with widespread gun ownership, eg Switzerland, with low shootings and crime.

So what you are really suggesting is that blacks in the US shouldn't be allowed to own guns. Why don't you come out and say it?

Uh oh, Nine Ender is going to try to get you banned for saying such racist things.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

You are roughly three times as likely to be murdered as a US resident then as a Canadian resident. By any means. Mass shooting data is also available online at various sources; it suffices to say that the US rate is much higher then the Canadian rate, and that Norway's data is skewed by one giant incident.

More nonsense. Your risk of gun violence in 99% of the US is minimal, provided you show some basic common sense.