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Slick Willie, America's WORST President
- Thread starter Stockjobber
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Originally posted by gerry875
so you really think an election system that makes it possible that somebody can become the president with a minority of votes is working very well?
what kind of democracy is this? the democracy of the greatest nation ever?
what kind of human being does one have to be by accepting being the president of a democratic country without the majority of votes?
i'm not an american - but since your gov sometimes makes decisions affecting not only the us but the whole world ...
anyway - don't get me wrong - it's not that i don't like W or the republicans - if gore would be pres now - and bush had more votes - i would write the same.
YES I DO Think its working well. If the worst thing you can say about the election system is that in the last election the electoral college kicked in instead of the majority of votes then please don't forget everyone knew the rules AHEAD of time. Also no major movement by either party to change the system.
IMHO opinion polls are not a good substitution for an election
Originally posted by trdrmac
1reason,
I think the vote itself gives you free speech. But if you have more money than than I, then my free speech is put at risk because I will not receive the same portion of the politicians ear.
As for term limits, I don't know about that. Where there are some fields that time builds skills, like surgery or law or many technical fields. I look at the university system and see how the tenure process has failed to offer students professors with any non text book experience in the past 20 years. Or how hard it is to go to the DMV or POST OFFICE or heaven forbid your local TAX COLLECTOR. Many of these people are entrenched and just don't give a crap. But if there were meaningful change I would not care how long they stayed in.
And I agree, we have a efficient system, and clearly America is one of the better places to live. But that does not mean that there is not room for improvement.
As for the drug issue, I don't smoke pot or drink. (Not now) But one thing I think is too funny, and maybe it is in the south. But just about every employer around here does pre-drug screening. What they should be doing is testing peoples breath for alcohol when the come to work or checking their medicine cabinets for prescription drugs. Since alcohol and legal meds are the 1 & 2 drug problems in America.
But if nothing else we are consistently inconsistent in our focus on problems.
While I can agree that your vote sends a message regardless of the outcome of the election I can not agree limiting speech (spending) by some keeps others from being limited.
Why should a minority get equal access to lawmakers?? It doesnt make sense. In most issues there is two sides. I like the idea of giving the side that cares the most ( spends the most maybe) the final vote. Its one of the ways that we prevent some stupid laws from being made IMHO. ( not that we dont have to many stupid laws as it is)
Anyway dont forget all the special interest groups are made up of people with a common cause. I think the more we limit the ability of people with smaller bank accounts to get organized and collectively spend on there common issue the more we are in danger of lawmakers doing whatever they want because the people will not have as many ways to get there message out.
As far as corporations spending on elections...dont forget that corporation are again nothing more than people geting together to make a living.
Originally posted by chasinfla
o did he? you mean the orcl who's ceo wanted to donate the database into which everyone's national ID information would be placed? No wonder clinton wants to be there.
these people are freaking scary. and everyone who supported them -- who happens to have a conscience (and still be alive) --- will one day be very ashamed.
I think I know what you're implying. It is not uncommon that the conservative administration takes the blame for the folly of the liberal administration that preceded it. It's strategy, Bung.
Are you referring to the trend where the markets outperform when there is a demo president with a repub congress??
Originally posted by 1Reason
ps - for those of you who may be wondering, I dont do drugs and dont think people should do them. I also dont think people should eat fried food, smoke, or drink. That does NOT mean I want to spend 30% of my income paying taxes fighting people who do.
That is a truly brilliant statement. I wish I would've thought of it! haha
Originally posted by tatertrader
Good public service like the $100 million dollar Whitewater investigation and a decade of legislature paralyzed by partisan politics and vendetta? All of which resulted in one Clinton exoneration after another. I suppose your idea of good public service is debasing the social security system and running up massive budget deficits to offer token tax reform and fund massive subsidies and trade tariffs?
Go on - give me another good laugh if you got one in ya?
OOH!!! I've got one - how about the republican witchhunt following monica's BJ.
That whole event truly made me disgusted to be an American. Seriously, that whole waste of time and money so the republicans could finally make clinton look bad - was truly shameful and partisan.
Vince Fosters wife was in the oval office getting fondled by the most powerful man in the world, she goes home and talks to her husband, the next day he blows his brains out. Clinton was no big happy innocent dog. Among other things he had no conscience. Most people would have been overwhelmed with guilt but it didn't appear that he was, at least not a few months later as Monica was blowing him.
Just exactly what does a person have to do nowadays to be considered a "bad person"?
Just exactly what does a person have to do nowadays to be considered a "bad person"?
Like the Police Commissioner said to Harry Callahan in Sudden Impact, "People have a nasty habit of getting dead around you."
the economy would be better without w as pres
alot better
same for the markets
the israel/palestine business was progressing before w
now its going from bad to worse
one group is led by a terrorist and the other side is led by a war criminal. w thinks if he says some bad things about the terrorist we will have peace. give me a break, the man has no clue.
the absolute proof that w is clueless on economic matters is way the protectionist lobbies push him around. Reagan and Bush senior were never wimps when it came to trade because they undetstood economic matters.
Slick willie was 20 times smarter than w when it came to the economy, that was how he survied all his other sickening bs
Everybody would be alot better off if w was still back in texas frying inmates.
Dole would have made a far better pres. w is a disaster and his vp is a non factor.
don't pm me on this, its a disaster and I have nothing to add.
alot better
same for the markets
the israel/palestine business was progressing before w
now its going from bad to worse
one group is led by a terrorist and the other side is led by a war criminal. w thinks if he says some bad things about the terrorist we will have peace. give me a break, the man has no clue.
the absolute proof that w is clueless on economic matters is way the protectionist lobbies push him around. Reagan and Bush senior were never wimps when it came to trade because they undetstood economic matters.
Slick willie was 20 times smarter than w when it came to the economy, that was how he survied all his other sickening bs
Everybody would be alot better off if w was still back in texas frying inmates.
Dole would have made a far better pres. w is a disaster and his vp is a non factor.
don't pm me on this, its a disaster and I have nothing to add.