Should Confederate War Memorials/Statues Be Abolished?

[Cuddles]

I saw his "candidacy" introduction video. It was nothing but clips of Trump saying stupid sh*t. Charlottesville, McCain, the disabled reporter...

I thought to myself... is that all he's got? Thats what he's going to run on? How weak is that? Lets hear some ideas. Lets hear about healthcare, higher wages for working folk. No, you're going to try to look big and bad by making Charlottesville the focal point of announcement. That just goes to show.... he's got nothing. Name recognition maybe. That's it.

I also saw clips of Joy Beyhar interviewing him on The View..
He looked like he was dead. Pale, tired. He doesn't stand a chance imo.
He's going 0-3. Or is it 0-4? Who cares. Waste of his time and other's money.

Oh and a note to Lawrence O'Donnel and Brian Williams of MSNBC fame:

How can you say Robert E. Lee "killed more Americans than any other general ever" and make it a talking point for Christsake? Could the same not be said about Ulysses S. Grant then? Thats the dumbest statement I ever heard one of them say.

80% of our population has lost (or never had) the ability to think critically. How can people be so stupid?

You underestimate the power of making the other candidate look bad. Hell, worked for Trump through the whole field of republicans and through Hillary too.

Technically the Confederates were not Americans by whole virtue of seceding from "America". They were an independent state who no longer believed in America so chose what many of us would term a treasonous path by allying themselves to said state.

 

[Tony Stark]

Could the same not be said about Ulysses S. Grant then?

No.Thats the dumbest statement I ever heard you say.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I also saw clips of Joy Beyhar interviewing him on The View..
He looked like he was dead. Pale, tired. He doesn't stand a chance imo.
He's going 0-3. Or is it 0-4? Who cares. Waste of his time and other's money.

Indeed.

There is no glory in how this is going to end for Joe. Sure, Trump and Bernie are older too but they are both up and on their feet and will run a bayonet right through you if you do not take them down first so fair is fair out on the trail.

It is not like that with Joe. It is more like back when Hillary was planning to run and all the pundits said that while Hillary was a zero that she had a secret weapon on her side.....ie. Bubba. Then after two or three campaign appearances the goal became to keep Secret Weapon Bubba out of public, and there was no fun or glory in seeing him traipsed out just to show how far past his prime he was. Not pretty at all.

And Biden never racked up any interest even when he was in his prime. Now they are trying to make him out to be the Great White Hope. I don't like it. As you said, he looked dead, pale, and tired, and it is not my idea of cage match. He will leave the trail totally confused and beaten by the people who he thought were his friends and his own party.

It's ugly man, really ugly. No glory.

Even if he wins, I say the same. You will just get to see him go down the drain in office rather than on the trail. The idiot tards should be ashamed of themselves for using him like that.

 

[CaptainObvious]

You underestimate the power of making the other candidate look bad. Hell, worked for Trump through the whole field of republicans and through Hillary too.

Technically the Confederates were not Americans by whole virtue of seceding from "America". They were an independent state who no longer believed in America so chose what many of us would term a treasonous path by allying themselves to said state.

All this erasing of confederate history makes more sense when you realize they were all democrats.


In the 1850s they, DEMOCRATS, defended slavery in the United States, and promoted its expansion into the West against northern Free Soil opposition. The United States presidential election of 1860 formalized the split, and brought the American Civil War. After Reconstruction ended in the late 1870s they controlled all the Southern states and disenfranchised blacks (who were Republicans).

 

[Cuddles]

All this erasing of confederate history makes more sense when you realize they were all democrats.


In the 1850s they, DEMOCRATS, defended slavery in the United States, and promoted its expansion into the West against northern Free Soil opposition. The United States presidential election of 1860 formalized the split, and brought the American Civil War. After Reconstruction ended in the late 1870s they controlled all the Southern states and disenfranchised blacks (who were Republicans).

cool story, all I care about is that they were a bunch of retrograde conservatives preventing progress

 

[CaptainObvious]

cool story, all I care about is that they were a bunch of retrograde conservatives preventing progress

Life on the dem plantation hasn't changed all that much, other than the cotton fields were probably safer than the urban shitholes the left has blacks housed in today. At least those old slaves knew who the enemy was, an old Democrat, same as today. Trump has done more in two years to correct racial injustices than the left has done in multiple decades.

 

[Cuddles]

Life on the dem plantation hasn't changed all that much, other than the cotton fields were probably safer than the urban shitholes the left has blacks housed in today. At least those old slaves knew who the enemy was, an old Democrat, same as today. Trump has done more in two years to correct racial injustices than the left has done in multiple decades.

this is what delusion looks like

 

[Tony Stark]

All this erasing of confederate history makes more sense when you realize they were all democrats.


In the 1850s they, DEMOCRATS, defended slavery in the United States, and promoted its expansion into the West against northern Free Soil opposition. The United States presidential election of 1860 formalized the split, and brought the American Civil War. After Reconstruction ended in the late 1870s they controlled all the Southern states and disenfranchised blacks (who were Republicans).

All this erasing of confederate history makes more sense when you realize they were all conservitive southern confederate state whites.


In the 1850s they, conservitive southern confederate state whites, defended slavery in the United States, and promoted its expansion into the West against northern Free Soil opposition. The United States presidential election of 1860 formalized the split, and brought the American Civil War. After Reconstruction ended in the late 1870s they controlled all the Southern states and disenfranchised blacks (who were voted for the party that represented the union states).

 

[Tony Stark]

they controlled all the Southern states and disenfranchised blacks

What party controls the southern states now?

 

[Scataphagos]

The victors write/edit history.

I have no doubt all reference to the American Civil War, slavery* (and other concerns) will one day be expunged from our history. Burn the books, destroy statues, rename streets... whatever it takes.

*Of course anybody who thinks he's entitled to reparations will want to get that beforehand.