Should cigarettes be banned?

[armoured saint]

Quote from annaland:

What’s the sense in banning? Okay, so you don’t want your kids smoking, drinking, doing drugs – I understand. But banning does quite the opposite. I think exposing but educating is the best way to approach it. Sit your kids down when they are in their early teens and make them smoke a cigarette. I don’t think they’ll touch another one (given that they aren’t surrounded by smokers). As young teens they are young enough to be impacted by the cigarette and old enough to understand what it does. Face it, your kids will (likely) drink before 21, they will (likely) have sex before marriage, etc. Instead of teaching your kids not to drink or have sex why not teach them to not drink and drive, and to have protected sex as opposed to the harsh DON’T DRINK, DON’T HAVE SEX, which will only peak your kids curiosity?

thunderlessdoggie wants to ban junk food advertising but he can't define 'junk food'. he;s anot only an idiot but a disingenuous idiot at that

i am beginning to think that T-dog IS Z! it makes sense doesn't it :eek:

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from armoured saint:

thunderlessdoggie wants to ban junk food advertising but he can't define 'junk food'. he;s anot only an idiot but a disingenuous idiot at that

i am beginning to think that T-dog IS Z :eek:

You want to ban abortion the second sperm hits an egg but you can't define life....The supreme court can't define Porn but they know it when they see it...I can;t define JUnk Food but i also know that juv. diabietes and obesity have become epidemics in this country...and al you have to do is go down any street in the US and all you see is MC.Don, Wendy, BK, Pizza, ect....

walk down a street in Europe and you hardly see any and they are very thin....and they also all smoke!

 

[ElCubano]

Quote from armoured saint:

define 'junk food'.

Id say pretty much everything that is not eaten raw...is junk food...

 

[armoured saint]

Quote from TM_Direct:

You want to ban abortion the second sperm hits an egg but you can't define life....The supreme court can't define Porn but they know it when they see it...I can;t define JUnk Food but i also know that juv. diabietes and obesity have become epidemics in this country...and al you have to do is go down any street in the US and all you see is MC.Don, Wendy, BK, Pizza, ect....

walk down a street in Europe and you hardly see any and they are very thin....and they also all smoke!

ya, so?? so? so? so? so so and so? what's your points?

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from annaland:

What’s the sense in banning? Okay, so you don’t want your kids smoking, drinking, doing drugs – I understand. But banning does quite the opposite. I think exposing but educating is the best way to approach it. Sit your kids down when they are in their early teens and make them smoke a cigarette. I don’t think they’ll touch another one (given that they aren’t surrounded by smokers). As young teens they are young enough to be impacted by the cigarette and old enough to understand what it does. Face it, your kids will (likely) drink before 21, they will (likely) have sex before marriage, etc. Instead of teaching your kids not to drink or have sex why not teach them to not drink and drive, and to have protected sex as opposed to the harsh DON’T DRINK, DON’T HAVE SEX, which will only peak your kids curiosity?

Happy Valentines Day!
al

I hope you are not addressing this post to me (except for the Happy Velentine's Day part) since I wrote this earlier in the thread:

Quote from Thunderdog:

Tobacco need not be banned. Its smoke only needs to be kept away from my face. (MY rights, too, remember?) And as for the advertising of junk food to children, that should be as illegal as advertising tobacco to them. As I had noted in an earlier post, children should be protected by all adults and not only their parents. No form of predatory conduct towards children by adults is acceptable. Directly enticing impressionable children towards that which is bad for them is downright predatory.

As you will note, I did not suggest banning the product, be it tobacco or junk food, only the predatory advertising to young impressionable minds. Parents have a hard enough time dealing with their kids' peer pressure without putting the multi-billion dollar might of irresponsible advertisers on their backs as well.

Oh, and Happy Valentine's Day to you as well, and to your friend Bambie, who I understand will be at surfer's fest.

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from armoured saint:

ya, so?? so? so? so? so so and so? what's your points?

Yep...You are an idiot..

 

[Bootsie]

Quote from acronym:

Notice, i didnt say tobacco products-the reason for this, is to be inclusive of the various crap posing as quitting aids etc, and the fact chewing the stuff oughtta be repulsive to all but a truly tiny minority.
Baseball players, mainly.

Roll your owns, also gone, if you want to get nicotine, they have filters to banish tar/smoke, oddly, banned for sale in many places due to use by health conscious marijuana smokers.

Go figure.

While im on the topic, how about tens of thousands of places for nicotine addicts in recovery, or for that matter recovery from any drug, WITHOUT compulsory medication as an option?
Who do they think they are kidding, compulsory meds are a FRAUD.


It will never happen, due to the stranglehold of big pharma, but gee its a nice thought.

No one smokes anymore... at least not anyone important !!

 

[acronym]

Quote from Bootsie:

No one smokes anymore... at least not anyone important !!

Well, this is probably true-important people can just pop into a health spa or something, while joe six-pack pays through the nose for the privelege of having "free choice" regarding highly addictive legal drugs.

 

[nutmeg]

Quote from Bootsie:

No one smokes anymore... at least not anyone important !!

sounds like a PageSix slogan.

 

[Bootsie]

Quote from nutmeg:

sounds like a PageSix slogan.

Actually - I should give credit where credit is due....

A couple of years ago I bought a new Cadiallac CTS-V (don't ask why). My neighbour came by to test it out. As he was messing around with the interior he noticed a sliding drawer - turns out it was an ashtry. I should say it was quite obviously hidden too. Anyway, as soon as he discoverd its intended use he came up with the above quote. I thought is funny yet actually a bit prophetic too.

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