Should cigarettes be banned?

Should cigarettes be banned?

  • Totally, we are enlightened and health conscious, ban them

    Votes: 26 50.0%
  • It impinges on freedom of choice, despite smokers being addicted and have no choice

    Votes: 15 28.8%
  • i believe phillip morris, i like my ciggies, no probs

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • Stop taxing addicted users, ban profiteering from this drug, gov or corporate, help people quit via

    Votes: 7 13.5%

  • Total voters
    52
Quote from nutmeg:

Off the top of my head.

Most are familiar with the strategy of "Take a deep breath and count to ten" to release stress. This strategy provides a moment to think, step back and regroup your thoughts. It is a coping strategy. Most people do not practice this although they are aware of it.

Lighting a cigarette in the time of stress, first requires you to take a deep breath, (as I mentioned), your physical stance, mannerisms, etc all change with the ritual of having a cigarette. Although a cigarette lasts longer than the count of ten, basically it provides the same "calming" effect or changes your mood.

Substituting a carrot stick, food, etc, does not alter your breathing pattern, which is what is lacking. Food is an oral replacement but is poor substitute. Hence, overeating when you quit smoking.

ok, finally some sense on this thread. thank you

no physically, does it give you a buzz, or do you feel nothing but a sense of calm

ps our posts have crossed i see you've answered
 
Quote from TM_Direct:

I never called for a ban on anything...You need to read before you respond....you were debating about definitions....definig anything is hard in absolute terms..I don;t know what the definition of porn is but im pretty sure when i see it. I can't define junk food...but im pretty sure thats what McDonalds and BK are serving

i see you are hanging your whole argument on the ill-defined "porn" thing because you think you're in good company. wrong.

'i can't say what it is is but i know it when i see it' LOL what BS is this! LOL I SUBMIT YOU ARE FOS, I CANT DEFINE IT BUT I KNOW SH^T WHEN I SEE IT ! What a pile of crap ROFL :D :D :D

will you use this ass an excuse for not thinking in every instance where you assertions??
 
Quote from indahook:

There is a slight buzz if your not a heavy user. Not really something you would do to get high. The taste is pretty nasty actually..unless you roll your own with some premium leaf.

like coffee, the few times i tried to quit then when back i say i din't know was so bitter why do i drink it?? (i like it black and strong) but i keep drinking :D
 
armoured saint


Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 553


02-15-08 09:39 AM



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Quote from TM_Direct:

You want to ban abortion the second sperm hits an egg but you can't define life....The supreme court can't define Porn but they know it when they see it...I can;t define JUnk Food but i also know that juv. diabietes and obesity have become epidemics in this country...and al you have to do is go down any street in the US and all you see is MC.Don, Wendy, BK, Pizza, ect....

walk down a street in Europe and you hardly see any and they are very thin....and they also all smoke!
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'Europeans' have high rates of heart disease and diabetes so don't kid yourself.

it baffles my mind that someone who seems at least fairly intelligent calls for a ban of something they can't define isn't this called 'irrational'?

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OK...Nice and slow so even a moron like you can understand...READ the reply first then answer:
1)Did I not say that " I cannot define it"??

Yet you say I cannot define it...Duh...thats what I said

2) Did i not say Europeans are thin BUT THEY ALL SMOKE"??

Yet you read this and say " they have hi rates of heart disease...DUH!! Ya think smoking plays a factor here?






Why do i get the feeling your a 14 year old boy wearing underwear on your head and playing with Mom and dads computer??
 
Quote from armoured saint:

like coffee, the few times i tried to quit then when back i say i din't know was so bitter why do i drink it?? (i like it black and strong) but i keep drinking :D

Thats a problem. You need your koffie verkeert (Dutch for swimming with cream and cane sugar and foam on top)..mmmmmmm

It seems I enjoy most everything that is bad for me.
 
Quote from indahook:

Thats a problem. You need your koffie verkeert (Dutch for swimming with cream and cane sugar and foam on top)..mmmmmmm

It seems I enjoy most everything that is bad for me.

ya gots to do a simple cost/benefit (ie, harm/pleasure) analysis. how much pleasure you getting from this behavior and what do you wish to risk for it.

i love big macs, can eat three in a sitting. chips too, french fries YUM! however, haven't had any for years now, why, that 5 mins of pleasure ain't worth years of loss of health benefits

my dad said to me once, "think about it, whatever you eat only tastes good for the few minutes that you eat it. it's only a 'few minutes'. Is it worth it?"i think of this and it helps me
 
Quote from armoured saint:

ya gots to do a simple cost/benefit (ie, harm/pleasure) analysis. how much pleasure you getting from this behavior and what do you wish to risk for it.



I get tremendous pleasure from coffee loaded with cream and sugar. And when I am dead I will have all the time in the world to regret my actions.

Now dont get all preachy on me...:D
 
Quote from indahook:

I get tremendous pleasure from coffee loaded with cream and sugar. And when I am dead I will have all the time in the world to regret my actions.

Now dont get all preachy on me...:D

No preachy here,,

simple sugar and cream in your coffee will not kill you. bad choices are additive. what are you giving up to balance things out? what are you putting on the other side of the seesaw to help undo the bad choice you are aware of :D

ps of course with smoking there is NOTHING you can do to balance things out, unfortunately
 
Quote from armoured saint:

No ad will stop an adult from smoking, the ads must be directed at preventing the kids from starting. That slogan woouldn't stop ONE kid :)


You want to get most men to stop smoking....

...make cigarettes PINK !!
 
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