SHOCKING!! More unexpected Obamacare taxes

John_Wensink · Dec 12, 2012

If medical school wasn't controlled by the public unions and the hospitals were not forced to care for illegals your bill would have been much less.

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Correction.It was 2 days in the hospital and the bill was over 35,000

nutmeg · Dec 12, 2012

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

I wouldn't do that if I were you 377(not get insurance).Last year I was in the hospital for 3 days and my bill was 34,000.

A buddy of mine tells me about his chemo treatment. 20k a pop, he had 32 treatments. His meds cost 10k a month. We lost track of blood tests, cat scans x rays and hospital stays which cost hundreds of dollars. His co pays were 20 bucks, do you realize every test, results in a co pay? When he was in the hospital and every Dr that stops in, = a 20 co pay. He's probably a million dollar customer in less than a year.

Scataphagos · Dec 12, 2012

Quote from nutmeg:

A buddy of mine tells me about his chemo treatment. 20k a pop, he had 32 treatments. His meds cost 10k a month. We lost track of blood tests, cat scans x rays and hospital stays which cost hundreds of dollars. His co pays were 20 bucks, do you realize every test, results in a co pay? When he was in the hospital and every Dr that stops in, = a 20 co pay. He's probably a million dollar customer in less than a year.

Not to worry.

Better now than later. Under Obamacare, some bureaucrat will say, "not worth spending that much money on this guy... send him home with a bottle of aspirin."

nutmeg · Dec 12, 2012

That whole project has me thinking.

Suppose a Dr specializes in Chemo. Suppose a hospital is just an office with services/space to rent. Suppose a Dr is an independant contractor.

A Dr could negotiate with a drug company a salary in return for using their product. The Dr could approach the hospital and say you don't need to pay me, just charge me a rate for an office and periphial staff.

The drug company "payment" could be any amount and include enough for a Dr to hire a PA and perhaps support one or two nurses and a secretary.

Now the Dr is no liability to the hospital. The Dr could or is actually doing chemo research (or whatever drug) in return for using the pharma product.

This looks like it could be a win win situation.

bigarrow · Dec 12, 2012

Story after story of doctors and hospitals and insurance companies financially screwing the customer and yet all those on the right love this system.
For those who don't have insurance, they don't get a real bill from the hospital or the doctors or the testing labs, the bills are regularly inflated 100% or more. For the poor working stiff who doesn't know how the game is played they are forced into bankruptcy. The system rewards the insurance companies who can deny coverage and deny or restrict payments to providers and hopipitals, the providers and hospitals react by grossly inflating their invoices and they go ahead and cheat the uninsured when they send their bill out just for the hell of it. The customer is the only one who doesn't have any infuence in the pricing or services and ALL the money comes from the customer (public). Don't like Obama care guys, then come up with something better or make Obama care better or shut up.

PHOENIX TRADING · Dec 12, 2012

Quote from bigarrow:

Story after story of doctors and hospitals and insurance companies financially screwing the customer and yet all those on the right love this system.
For those who don't have insurance, they don't get a real bill from the hospital or the doctors or the testing labs, the bills are regularly inflated 100% or more. For the poor working stiff who doesn't know how the game is played they are forced into bankruptcy. The system rewards the insurance companies who can deny coverage and deny or restrict payments to providers and hopipitals, the providers and hospitals react by grossly inflating their invoices and they go ahead and cheat the uninsured when they send their bill out just for the hell of it. The customer is the only one who doesn't have any infuence in the pricing or services and ALL the money comes from the customer (public). Don't like Obama care guys, then come up with something better or make Obama care better or shut up.

single payer : pt pays his bill for services rendered , it's no more complicated than that.

bigarrow · Dec 12, 2012

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

single payer : pt pays his bill for services rendered , it's no more complicated than that.

But it won't work for America and that's what the discussion is about.

LEAPup · Dec 12, 2012

Quote from Mercor:

Obamacare is set up to fail. In its place will be complete Government takeover.

You win the door prize. No question, govt takeover will be the end result. :mad:

Ocommunist: taking America from Super power #1 to to it's knees in eight years or less. :mad:

After all, he IS putting the dreams of his Father to work destroying the America we all know/knew. :mad:

CaptainObvious · Dec 12, 2012

ObamaCare Watcher notes, "1,147,271 Words of Obamacare Regulations Published So Farâ270% as Long as the Text of the Statute":

If you thought that Obamacare was long, it is only a fraction of the length of the regulations.

Obamacare contains over 700 directives for HHS and other agencies to implement Obamacare.

We went through and counted all of the Obamacare regulation documents published so far. We found that the number of pages in regulations are already 114% as long as the number of pages in the Obamacare statutes! The statutes contain 961 pages compared to 1,093 pages of regulations.

But regulations published in the Federal Register are published in small font, three columns wide.

What is more telling is the word count comparison. The Obamacare statutes together contain 425,116 words. Compare that to 1,147,271 words published so far in Obamacare regulation documents. The regulations are 270% as long as the statute itself.

The 1.1 million words in Obamacare regulations published so far are only a fraction of the regulations yet to come...

Native American Chief say, "It does not require many words to speak the truth."

Scataphagos · Dec 12, 2012

Quote from LEAPup:

You win the door prize. No question, govt takeover will be the end result.

Ocommunist: taking America from Super power #1 to to it's knees in eight years or less. After all, he IS putting the dreams of his Father to work destroying the America we all know/knew.

Totally agree.. but WHY would he do that? And why doesn't somebody stand up and stop this? The fate of 300 million citizens is not supposed to rest on the delusions/desires/whims of ONE man! Something for all Americans to ponder.