SHOCKING!! More unexpected Obamacare taxes

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Scataphagos:

Totally agree.. but WHY would he do that? And why doesn't somebody stand up and stop this? The fate of 300 million citizens is not supposed to rest on the delusions/desires/whims of ONE man! Something for all Americans to ponder.

Its not one man,he is the representative of the majority of American voters and electoral college votes.Obama could have been peacefully kicked out last month if thats what the majority of Americans wanted and he wasn't, its time for your kind to accept that

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from bigarrow:

... Don't like Obama care guys, then come up with something better or make Obama care better or shut up.

If I/we come up with something better, which would be just about Anything But Obamacare, will it be implemented?

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Scataphagos:

but WHY would he do that?

Because the American people said they wanted access to healthcare for all in 2008.They said it again in 2012 when they had the choice to vote for a candidate who would have ended Obamacare

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from bigarrow:

Story after story of doctors and hospitals and insurance companies financially screwing the customer and yet all those on the right love this system.
For those who don't have insurance, they don't get a real bill from the hospital or the doctors or the testing labs, the bills are regularly inflated 100% or more. For the poor working stiff who doesn't know how the game is played they are forced into bankruptcy. The system rewards the insurance companies who can deny coverage and deny or restrict payments to providers and hopipitals, the providers and hospitals react by grossly inflating their invoices and they go ahead and cheat the uninsured when they send their bill out just for the hell of it. The customer is the only one who doesn't have any infuence in the pricing or services and ALL the money comes from the customer (public). Don't like Obama care guys, then come up with something better or make Obama care better or shut up.

+ 1

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from nutmeg:

A buddy of mine tells me about his chemo treatment. 20k a pop, he had 32 treatments. His meds cost 10k a month. We lost track of blood tests, cat scans x rays and hospital stays which cost hundreds of dollars. His co pays were 20 bucks, do you realize every test, results in a co pay? When he was in the hospital and every Dr that stops in, = a 20 co pay. He's probably a million dollar customer in less than a year.

A person can easily lose everything they worked for by being uninsured.I wouldn't suggest anybody put their assets at risk because they dont like Obama or Obamacare.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from nutmeg:

He's probably a million dollar customer in less than a year.

Prior to Obamacare insurance policy's had lifetime caps.After one bout with cancer you could reach the max and no insurance would cover a cancer survivor.Because of Obamacare there are no more caps or pre existing conditions denials

 

[DHOHHI]

Quote from bigarrow:

Story after story of doctors and hospitals and insurance companies financially screwing the customer and yet all those on the right love this system.
For those who don't have insurance, they don't get a real bill from the hospital or the doctors or the testing labs, the bills are regularly inflated 100% or more. For the poor working stiff who doesn't know how the game is played they are forced into bankruptcy. The system rewards the insurance companies who can deny coverage and deny or restrict payments to providers and hopipitals, the providers and hospitals react by grossly inflating their invoices and they go ahead and cheat the uninsured when they send their bill out just for the hell of it. The customer is the only one who doesn't have any infuence in the pricing or services and ALL the money comes from the customer (public). Don't like Obama care guys, then come up with something better or make Obama care better or shut up.

Go read "The Healing of America: A Global Quest for Better, Cheaper and Fairer Health Care". It details how the other countries (France, Germany, Japan, UK, Canada) handle health care. We were bad as it was .. Obamacare makes it worse. Just had my annual physical and my doctor said it's only going to get worse.

And NO, poor working stiffs are not forced into bankruptcy. If they don't have insurance doctors will take a greatly REDUCED amount. It is posted in my doctor's office; pay on day of service and it's like 45 to 50% of the amount that would be charged to insurance.

 

[DHOHHI]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Its not one man,he is the representative of the majority of American voters and electoral college votes.Obama could have been peacefully kicked out last month if thats what the majority of Americans wanted and he wasn't, its time for your kind to accept that

Actually the majority of Americans want handouts and thus why they voted for him. Freebies beat the heck out of having to work hard in life. My grandfather had a 4th grade education, had a family during the depression, yet was successful in life. Back then they knew it was work hard or starve. That work ethic has been passed along through subsequent generations in our family. Now it's "where's my next handout?" for many. MANY people do NOT want to work and that's WHY they love Obama. They know they can get something for nothing.

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from bigarrow:

But it won't work for America and that's what the discussion is about.

Of course it would work.
Refusing to recognize the obvious solution to the problem : IS THE REAL PROBLEM.


That's why every band aid and fix a flat effort is bound to fail.
You want something- you pay for it: pretty simple.

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from Scataphagos:

Totally agree.. but WHY would he do that? And why doesn't somebody stand up and stop this? The fate of 300 million citizens is not supposed to rest on the delusions/desires/whims of ONE man! Something for all Americans to ponder.

Sheep behave like sheep. They want to be fed, and all other shit for free before they go to slaughter. And why would he destroy America? Simple. That's his fathers dream as well as his communist friends American voters ignored in order to get their "free" stuff...