Senate popular vote

[Tom B]

These left wingers don't understand how our elections work. They are whining about the popular vote from last night. It is their passive-aggressive way of not accepting election results.

 

[UsualName]

Very reasonable argument. We speak of abolishing the First Amendment or eliminating the Supreme Court.


Thank God our founders were smarter than our left and could think big picture and longer term.

Oh you right wingers are off on so many issues I wouldn’t even know where to begin. Democrats are certainly more in alignment with the founders and the spirit of the constitution than today’s republicans.

 

[UsualName]

These left wingers don't understand how our elections work. They are whining about the popular vote from last night. It is their passive-aggressive way of not accepting election results.

No. When it comes to the House the left has every reason to oppose gerrymandering and be right.

The House is supposed to represent the people in proportional allotment. The proportional allotment in places like North Carolina is repugnant to the founding principles.

 

[UsualName]

The truth of the matter is that Senators should not be directly elected by the people but instead appointed by the state legislatures the way The Constitution originally stated. This was one of the ways that the states were represented in Congreff and had the voice that the folks in the states were entitled to.

Yes. Let me add the Senate was the original Loyalist/Tory/Conservative body. It is the appropriate place for conservative power and the House is for liberal power.

 

[UsualName]

I think this is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen on ET and that's saying a lot. Totally meaningless metric.
The more populous states have more Democrat voters, so of course the total Dem vote could be higher that the total Republican vote, regardless of the the outcome.

Wrong. Terrible analysis and not based on any of the actual voting in elections.

 

[Tom B]

No. When it comes to the House the left has every reason to oppose gerrymandering and be right.

The House is supposed to represent the people in proportional allotment. The proportional allotment in places like North Carolina is repugnant to the founding principles.

I am against gerrymandering on both sides. And, there currently is gerrymandering on both sides. However, it is disingenuous and simple-minded for you left wingers to conclude that the popular vote difference in favor of the Democrats is due to Republican gerrymandering without conducting an in-depth analysis.

 

[bone]

Oh you right wingers are off on so many issues I wouldn’t even know where to begin. Democrats are certainly more in alignment with the founders and the spirit of the constitution than today’s republicans.

That's a bit of a stretch. The left despises the First Amendment (for those with whom they disagree), the Second Amendment, Article One (two Senators from each State), the Twelve Amendment (the Electoral College and Congressional Apportionment)... and counting.

 

[UsualName]

That's a bit of a stretch. The left despises the First Amendment (for those with whom they disagree), the Second Amendment, Article One (two Senators from each State), the Twelve Amendment (the Electoral College and Congressional Apportionment)... and counting.

I have a feeling you’re talking about the first amendment as applies to private businesses like Facebook? If so, that is not a first amendment issue.

The standing interpretation of the second amendment as written by Scalia is abhorrent and a bastardized interpretation brought on by radicals, ignorants and gun manufacturers.

As to the electoral college, liberals aren’t doing anything about it except expressing their first amendment rights.

 

[UsualName]

I am against gerrymandering on both sides. And, there currently is gerrymandering on both sides. However, it is disingenuous and simple-minded for you left wingers to conclude that the popular vote difference in favor of the Democrats is due to Republican gerrymandering without conducting an in-depth analysis.

Please. Democrats win their districts by 70 plus percent in North Carolina while republicans win 55. That’s called packing.

 

[piezoe]

I really dislike when democrats make this argument. The senate is not the house, it has a totally different purpose.

It’s important to remember all of the power the federa government has is actually derived from the states. In exchange the states are granted two senators as a check to the House (the people) and the president (the nation).

It would be smarter to argue to abolish the senate than to argue some states should have more senators.

The truth of the matter is that Senators should not be directly elected by the people but instead appointed by the state legislatures the way The Constitution originally stated. This was one of the ways that the states were represented in Congreff and had the voice that the folks in the states were entitled to.

If only we could return to 1792, but with penicillin of course, we'd be so much better off.