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[Tsing Tao]

Quote from futurecurrents:

There's difference between your cited example and that of the young mother who made a mistake and making her kids pay for it. I agree that in your example there of course needs to be accountability.

And this is about the minimum wage and people who are doing the right thing and working full time but are still in poverty.

The minimum wage should be raised.

So you agree on consequences in one example, but not in the other. So who gets to determine what consequences should be suffered and which ones should be eased?

You?

Please describe what criteria should be used to bailout (which is effectively what we're talking about) someone who made a mistake.

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Why not? The government pays them to do it. What a life. Lie around, get wasted, father a bunch of kids that you abandon, and Obama makes the rich white gringos pay for it.

Social justice, eh?

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from Lucrum:

OK now I'm confused.

Someone making minimum wage is in poverty.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from bigarrow:

Someone making minimum wage is in poverty.

This is largely an exercise of expenses, too. For example, I make a solid 6 figure salary. If I decided I wanted to have 14 kids, I'd probably be close to the poverty level as well.

Someone making minimum wage that chooses to have three kids, knowing full well they cannot afford these children, well...there has to be a level of ownership to that ordeal.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

There will be a special place in hell for you and your gay brother for the perverted shit the two of you have done with each other.

What is wrong with you? Seriously.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

So you agree on consequences in one example, but not in the other. So who gets to determine what consequences should be suffered and which ones should be eased?

You?

Please describe what criteria should be used to bailout (which is effectively what we're talking about) someone who made a mistake.

Well maybe you think children should pay for the mistakes of their parents but most moral people do not.

The minimum wage should be raised.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Well maybe you think children should pay for the mistakes of their parents but most moral people do not.

The minimum wage should be raised.

I asked you two questions which you (perhaps by choice) ignored. Here they are again:

Quote from Tsing Tao:


So who gets to determine what consequences should be suffered and which ones should be eased?


Please describe what criteria should be used to bailout (which is effectively what we're talking about) someone who made a mistake.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

A liberal is apparently a person who thinks that paying people to keep making the same mistakes over and over is a good idea.

They can justify this because for liberals, it's not about actual results but about feeling morally superior. And of course for their pols, it's about creating a massive class of low information welfare recipients to keep them in power.

 

[Lucrum]

Ted Cruz's Father

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

This is largely an exercise of expenses, too. For example, I make a solid 6 figure salary. If I decided I wanted to have 14 kids, I'd probably be close to the poverty level as well.

Someone making minimum wage that chooses to have three kids, knowing full well they cannot afford these children, well...there has to be a level of ownership to that ordeal.

I agree with all of that Tao I was just making the point that the stats showing illegals living in poverty are not necessarily making less than minimum wage. I forgot to ask my guys if they know anyone working for less than minimum wage or employers offering less than minimum wage.