I was trading options on PPP, TDY, and Sante Fe Industries, not too mention stock-index futures on the NYFE at 5 lots a clip over the phone in 1981/1982 from my broker's office before being hired in 1984 by Victor Sperandeo to work one of his seats on the NYFE..................after that I gave hand jobs to Louie and Joey Borselino. Congrats.