Quote from Maverick74:
I hate to break it to you, but all those factors were in play last August, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, etc....
But it's different this time......LOL
Quote from thehangingman:
No, they were not in play.
The $TNX was on a downtrend until late November when the trend broke to the upside. Thats when you saw the indexes starting to get a little tired. A high $TNX is like kryptonite. The indexes rose as the $TNX went lower.
The bullish sentiment indicators for those months you mentioned were not over 70 for the $BPNYA. You can plainly see the sell signal on the following chart. This signal is tracked by many money managers. You can go to the stockcharts site yourself for more charts relating to additional indexes.
http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?$BPNYA
As for the put/call, you can plainly see that the average is at a point not seen since early 2006. A high put/call is a bullish signal. The current trend in the $CPC is a classic trend reversal signal.
http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?$CPC
The seasonality factors most everyone knows about and can be read about in books like Stock Traders Almanac. The end of the year is usually a highly bullish time.
Every index chart appears to be tired and not going up as they were in the fall.
Another assumption that was put forward by several money managers in the fall was that the rate hikes were now a thing of the past and it was likely that the Fed would cut rates. Bill Gross wrote on the PIMCO site that he thought the Fed would cute rates 4 times by the end of 2007. The market soared upwards on that logic. Now that thinking has been largely put in the dumpster behind Target.
The key chart for me is the bullish percent indicators which have always proven very reliable. When these indicators peak and pull back 6% then thats a classic signal.
Quote from thorn:
a few more stupid posts from you on my threads and you'll join the likes of bozente and apex capital as "jealous troll".
Quote from thorn:
You know i've long given up on being specific on ET b/c of the maggots. You can thank bozente, apex capital etc for my silence. But in honor of MLK day, i'll give you this:
you missed many of the reasons, but this is my rationale in this order:
1) excessively high bullish sentiment
2) rising bond yields
3) the year before an election
these 3 reasons are more than enough to put the s&p on track for a negative year.