Russia & Ukraine

Zelensky to Russia -- Get rid of Putin.

Zelenskyy: There will never be peace talks with Putin
Ukraine’s president hit out after referendum ‘farce.’
https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-peace-talks-vladimir-putin-russia-ukraine/?

There will be no peace talks between Ukraine and Russia as long as Vladimir Putin remains Russian leader, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Tuesday night.

“This is clear and obvious,” Zelenskyy added in his nightly address to the nation, after sham referendums were held in Ukrainian regions in a bid by Putin to annex more Ukrainian territory.

On Tuesday, Russian authorities and their proxies in four partly occupied Ukrainian regions — eastern Donetsk and Luhansk, and southern Zaporizhzhia and Kherson — announced the results of the five-day unrecognized referendums on joining Russia.

According to the numbers they put forward, in a Moscow-orchestrated vote which was illegal according to Ukrainian laws and strongly condemned by Western nations, huge majorities of voters in all regions backed joining Russia.

Zelenskyy said Russia’s attempts to annex new Ukrainian territories were a “Crimea scenario,” referring to the Moscow-initiated referendum on the peninsula joining Russia in 2014, which has never been recognized by Kyiv or its Western backers.

“Russia’s implementation of the so-called Crimean scenario and another attempt to annex Ukrainian territory will mean that there is nothing to talk about with this President of Russia,” he said.

“We knew in advance what would be drawn instead of the true result. Even our intelligence didn’t have to work very hard,” Zelenskyy added. “The agreed figures for this farce had been thrown into the media. Russia is not even hiding.”

According to Zelenskyy, the West should meet Putin’s escalation with defense, financial and sanctions support for Ukraine.

The Russia Federation plans to swiftly incorporate the four occupied Ukrainian regions. According to the Kremlin, once that happens, Kyiv’s attempts to retake them will be considered by Moscow as an attack on Russia itself, which has triggered speculation about the possible use of tactical nuclear weapons in retaliation.

On Tuesday, the U.K. defense ministry said that Putin is scheduled to address both houses of the Russian parliament on Friday. “There is a realistic possibility that Putin will use his address to formally announce the accession of the occupied regions of Ukraine to Russia,” the ministry said.

The Kremlin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov did not confirm Putin’s address on Friday.

The irony of the failed ousted becoming the ouster...
 
It's all over for Russia. Fer shur.

REFERENDUMS TO JOIN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION 2022

Results
Percentage of the voting population which voted Yes to joining Russia:

Donetsk Republic 98.69%
Lugansk Republic 98.42%
Kherson region 87.05%
Zhaporozhye region 93.11%


Done.
What would 'Democracy' say?

Rus-civ-vote.jpg
 
Just gonna say that occasionally I get fleeting thoughts that Ukraine is playing an ultra long game with Russia, wherein it will accept the fact that Putin has dug Luhansk and Donetsk very hard and not likely to let go or be driven out. So Ukraine ramps up its fronts there against them for the ultra long haul, mostly to make then commit massive resources to defending them.

Then over a period of a year or more - while Russia is bogged down there- Ukraine takes Mariupol, Kherson, downward, including Crimea and ultimately concedes Luhansk and Donetsk.
So Vlad gets those areas but pays an enormous price in maintaining them because Ukraine will take more land back, much more, while he is fully maxed out defending the newly annexed areas.

Some of this type of scenario might be enhanced if Vlad plays around with dropping a small tactical nuke in the region. Some of the pundits think that Nato would not necessarily respond with nukes if he did so, and if his strike was limited, but instead would take out the Black Sea Fleet, and Sevastopol their headquarters, and use conventional forces to hand Crimea over to the Ukrainians.

Putin is going to be thumbing his nose at the world on this Donetsk and Luhansk takeover, but the price he will pay is that he is going to lose Kherson while he is defending those annexed areas. And the Ukrainians will keep him busy in those areas while they continue to advance.
Russians have made no real progress in taking Odessa which is good. They were just weeks/days away at one point, then the Black Sea Fleet was given reasons to leave the area and stay farrr away.

Next stop for the Ukrainians is to encircle the city village of Lyman up near Kharkiv- another rail hub there I guess. Some pundits are saying that Ukraine has drawn the Ruskies into another trap there. The Ukrainians went for the rail hub just to bring all the Russian forces there and then they backed off and other Ukrainian forces came to encircle them.

We shall see. Lyman. It's gonna be a thing like Izyium. Probably by the weekend.
 
'Just Military Exercises, Right?': Families Send Off Russian Reservists

:rolleyes:

https://www.barrons.com/news/just-m...nd-off-russian-reservists-01664367608?tesla=y

These are just military exercises, right?" a woman in her 60s asks a relative next to her.

Around her, women are sharing a last kiss, holding hands or exchanging a final word with departing men through a metal barrier separating the reservists from the street.

"I think so, yes -- military exercises. I don't know," 55-year-old Svetlana Antonova replied, hoping to reassure the woman.

"I think they'll be taken to a training camp. I don't know. No one knows. I think they'll be in the rear."

 
"I think they'll be taken to a training camp. I don't know. No one knows. I think they'll be in the rear."
There is an expression in Russian "в полной жопе" - literally "completely in the ass", but figuratively "in deep trouble". I think that's what she meant by "be in the rear".
 
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