Russia & Ukraine

misterkel said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

Reuters: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem

As Ukraine’s struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law enforcement agencies.

Azov uses Nazi-era symbolism and recruits neo-Nazis into its ranks...

According to Freedom House’s Ukraine project director Matthew Schaaf, “numerous organized radical right-wing groups exist in Ukraine, and while the volunteer battalions may have been officially integrated into state structures, some of them have since spun off political and non-profit structures to implement their vision.” Schaaf noted that “an increase in patriotic discourse supporting Ukraine in its conflict with Russia has coincided with an apparent increase in both public hate speech, sometimes by public officials and magnified by the media, as well as violence towards vulnerable groups such as the LGBT community,” an observation that is supported by a recent Council of Europe study.

Kiev’s recent efforts to incorporate independent armed groups into its regular armed forces, as well as a continuing national sense of indebtedness to the militias for their defense of the homeland, make addressing the ultranationalist threat considerably more complicated than it is elsewhere. According to Schaaf and the Institute Respublica, Ukrainian extremists are rarely punished for acts of violence. In some cases — such as C14's January attack on a remembrance gathering for two murdered journalists — police actually detain peaceful demonstrators instead.

There’s no easy way to eradicate the virulent far-right extremism that has been poisoning Ukrainian politics and public life, but without vigorous and immediate efforts to counteract it, it may soon endanger the state itself.
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The best you can do is an article from 2018. SAD
 
BlueWaterSailor said:
Oh, FFS. If "there are a couple of nutjobs with agendas among millions of people" was an actual reason to attack a country, the US would have bombs falling on it today. Grow up.
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Lol, if that were truly the case, we would have dropped bombs on our own country. In places like Tallahassee. Wheeee!
 
September 25, 2022
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/ukra...herson_region_with_german_at2_mines-4325.html
Ukraine’s Armed Forces Destroy 120 russian Tanks in Kherson Region with German AT2 Mines
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Armed Forces of Ukraine use German DM1399 AT2 scatterable anti-tank mines, which supposedly have been secretly provided by Great Britain or Germany

A photo appeared on the network showing the DM1399 version of the AT2 scatterable anti-tank mine that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are using in the Kherson region.

The mine can be deployed from a rocket. It has a diameter of 103.5 mm and a weight of 2.22 kg. The mine auto-destructs after one of six selectable periods, up to a maximum of four days.

De jure, the AT2 scatterable anti-tank mine had been in service with Germany, Great Britain and Norway. But it was prohibited in 1997 as a result of the Anti-Personnel Mine Ban Convention and classified as it had formal characteristics of a cluster munition because 28 AT2 mines could fit in one rocket for the Mars II rocket launcher.

So it seems like Germany and Great Britain secretly provided rockets with DM1399 AT2 scatterable anti-tank mines as military aid.

De facto, the mine is fitted with a small plastic parachute when it is deployed from rockets to reduce the impact when the mine lands but the one on the photo doesn’t have it. That’s why we can assume that this DM1399 AT2 scatterable anti-tank mine has been delivered by MiWS Skorpion. Nevertheless, Ukraine has never officially received such vehicles from Germany, Great Britain or the Netherlands (MiWS Skorpion is in service with these countries), to be honest, AT2 scatterable anti-tank mines either.

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DM1399 version of AT2 scatterable anti-tank mine / Photo credit: https://t.me/horevica
Apparently, russian army has lost 120 tanks in the Kherson region over the past 3 weeks because of new German weapons in the arsenal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
 
tweet below.

Zelensky: Every Russian soldier that surrenders will get 'civilized' treatment.

my comments:

Yep. This is very much what Ukraine needs to do at this time. Take advantage of the morale problem and offer safe exit. Maybe invite the Red Cross or some similar third party in to monitor all pow's or their release to third countries.

I saw in another article the other day that, at the same time, Ukraine made it clear that all soldiers who surrender will still be accountable for any war crimes that they may have been committed. An important point.

There are currently 20,000 Russian soldiers trapped between the Ukrainian positions and the river in Kherson. They will all be dead within a month to six weeks. They have no place to go. No harm in trying to get many of them to surrender. Not to forget that it would save many Ukrainian lives too. The Russians may all be killed but they will take many Ukrainians with them if they just battle it out to the end. Offer them a free ticket out. If they don't want it, well, the Ukrainians are not running a counseling program.

It goes without saying that if lots of Russian soldiers start surrendering that the Russians will spread disinformation about how the Ukrainians are killing everyone who surrenders or cutting their balls off or something. That can't be helped. It's what they do. A lot of the Russians know that the Russian military is a bullshiiter too by now.

Just sayin, make it easy to surrender, where possible. Shoot them if they don't.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1573779725545340930
Zelensky: Every Russian soldier that surrenders will get 'civilized' treatment.

 
TreeFrogTrader said:
China has distanced itself from Putin- at least in regard to promoting the war.

Now Little Rocket Man is suddenly leaning over backwards to say that they are giving no weapons to Russia.

And Belarus-Boy Lukashenko refuses to send his troops into Ukraine.

Add Kazakstan to the list of former buddies who will not help out.

And Erdogan very vocally says that Crimea belongs to Ukraine and Russia needs to give it back.

I guess that still leaves Iran if Putin needs some hugs- so there is that.

Frigging idiot. Putin set out to be Peter the Great and is now well on his way to being the village idiot.

(Traditionally North Korea does some kind of dirty deal for food right before the winter begins. Most likely either the Americans or the UN made him a little offer, backchannel. In the past he has fired rockets into the Sea of Japan like a barking dog to get his bone in the form of food shipments. Don't be surprised if - as we get toward winter- a little bit of "relief" shows up in North Korea.)

N.Korea says it has never supplied weapons or ammunition to Russia

SEOUL, Sept 22 (Reuters) - North Korea on Thursday said it has never supplied weapons or ammunition to Russia and has no plans to do so, while warning the United States to "keep its mouth shut" and stop circulating rumours aimed at "tarnishing" the country's image.

"Recently, the U.S. and other hostile forces talked about the 'violation of a resolution' of the UNSC, spreading a 'rumour of arms dealings' between the DPRK and Russia ... We have never exported weapons or ammunition to Russia before and we will not plan to export them," KCNA quoted the country's vice director general of the General Bureau of Equipment of the Ministry of National Defence as saying in a statement, without naming the official.

https://www.reuters.com/world/nkore...weapons-or-ammunition-russia-kcna-2022-09-21/
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I said above:
(Traditionally North Korea does some kind of dirty deal for food right before the winter begins. Most likely either the Americans or the UN made him a little offer, backchannel. In the past he has fired rockets into the Sea of Japan like a barking dog to get his bone in the form of food shipments. Don't be surprised if - as we get toward winter- a little bit of "relief" shows up in North Korea.)

Just doing a quick "I told ya so." - see link below. Little Rocket Man being predictable. He wants his yearly food shipment for the winter. He will get it too because he has agreed to not ship weapons to Russia, and that, plus a few rockets into the Sea of Japan, and the UN will toss him his annual bone. It's how they do things in the Worker's Paradise.

South Korea, Japan: ‘North Korea fires ballistic missile toward sea off its eastern coast’

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/09/24/689796/North-Korea-fire-ballistic-missile-eastern-coast

 
BlueWaterSailor said:
"See? We killed the Bad Guy, and everything that's been happening was his fault. No need for any more sanctions, right?"
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That's complete nonsense. Hitler was dead and the sanctions even increased against Germany. The country was divided in four pieces,and each piece was controlled by another country. Germany also lost territory, and was demilitarized for a big part. Germany also had to pay a huge amount to other countries for the damage they did.

So the bad guy as killed (or killed himself) and the sanctions even increased.
Do you think all sanctions would have been lifted if Hitler would have been killed instead of a suicide? So no loss of territory, no demilitarization, and no financial compensation for the war damage? Keep on dreaming.

The same can happen in Russia. Inside Russia there are already groups of people who posted a plan to cut Russia in many independent pieces. That map was already posted on internet, but I did not save it unfortunately so I cannot show it. If Russia loses the war it will never be the same anymore in future.
 
virtusa said:
That's complete nonsense. Hitler was dead and the sanctions even increased against Germany.
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Do you actually read English? Try rereading what I wrote, S L O W L Y. Maybe, you know, make an effort to understand it instead of looking for shit to argue about.

The Germans didn't stop Hitler. The Allied forces actually had to fight their way to Berlin - lose all those men - at which point he committed suicide.

Unless you can actually understand my point, don't bother answering. More fantasy-based word salad from you would be of no interest whatsoever. I also note the fact that no one has conquered Russia militarily, nor is there any chance of it - which means that no one gets to split anything up, or make any other decisions for them - has utterly failed to enter your brain... unbelievable.

P.S. I was actually born and grew up in Moscow, so I can claim quite a bit of familiarity with how the average Russian thinks. Unless you've got something other than an uninformed opinion gathered from a bunch of cherry-picked websites that agree with you, you really have nothing of interest to contribute here.
 
BlueWaterSailor said:
P.S. I was actually born and grew up in Moscow, so I can claim quite a bit of familiarity with how the average Russian thinks.
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That's your problem. You still think like a Russian. But the sanctions will be the result of thinking according to the Western logic, not the Russian one.

The fact that the Germans didn't stop Hitler didn't change anything about the consequences.
So whether he was killed or killed himself has no relevance for the outcome. The defeat defines who will punish who, no matter if they took Berlin, now Moscow or any other city.

I did a lot of business already in the 1970's with several East European countries, I was in Russia, Poland, Czech Republic, East Germany, Bulgaria... And I was also in Kiev when the Maidan revolution started (as I am married for many years with a Ukrainian woman). So I know fairly well how things evolved in the 1970-2022 period and all the changes that happened.
 
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