Russia & Ukraine

TreeFrogTrader said:
Lots of circle jerking going on with getting these planes to the Ukraine. Just talking about it is not the right response.

Oh, great, right as I type Blinken says "I can't speak to the timeline but I can only say that we are looking at it very carefully." Get going motherfucker and stop dishing out last week's news and excuses.

Lots and lots and lots of valuable time has been lost. Lots.

Get your fingers out of your arse. They should have had this plan in place months ago. After all, they keep bragging about how they have known about the invasion since last October.

White House weighs 3-way deal to get fighter jets to Ukraine



https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-weighs-three-way-000147123.html
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You are simply not appreciating the fact the United Nations and the Biden Administration are working feverishly behind the scenes. Once everybody's chakras are lined up, the energy from the memories of Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Dr. Martin Luther King jr, Mandela, and John Lennon will be channelled into creating vibe that will cause ideas to bloom for the creation of a plan leading us towards the light. In fact, as we speak, there is discussion the United Nations should send a Peacekeeping force to the Kremlin. Consisting of professional masseuses who will be armed with essential oils and aromatherapies, Putin’s endorphins will be released while being surrounded by positive energy causing him to be pacified in no time. Ukraine will be saved.

Feel better now?
 
BeautifulStranger said:
You are simply not appreciating the fact the United Nations and the Biden Administration are working feverishly behind the scenes. Once everybody's chakras are lined up, the energy from the memories of Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Dr. Martin Luther King jr, Mandela, and John Lennon will be channelled into creating vibe that will cause ideas to bloom for the creation of a plan leading us towards the light. In fact, as we speak, there is discussion the United Nations should send a Peacekeeping force to the Kremlin. Consisting of professional masseuses who will be armed with essential oils and aromatherapies, Putin’s endorphins will be released while being surrounded by positive energy causing him to be pacified in no time. Ukraine will be saved.

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Yep. We are protected by essential oils.


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A senior U.S. defense official just released an updated assessment of the war in Ukraine as of early Sunday evening in Washington. Basic updates:

"We’ve observed limited changes on the ground over the past day. Russian forces continued efforts to advance and isolate Kyiv, Kharkhiv and Chernihiv across the north and east are being met with strong Ukrainian resistance."

"There does not appear to be any significant movement along the Russian axes. Leading elements remain outside these city centers. We cannot give specific distances today.

"The convoy continues to be stalled."

"We assess that the Russians have now committed inside Ukraine somewhere near 95% of the combat power they had amassed along the border."

"We’ve observed fighting in the south near Kherson and Mykolaiv. We cannot independently verify reporting of Russian forces firing on protesters in Kherson."

"We have not observed an amphibious invasion in or near Odessa, nor do we assess that one is imminent.

"We’ve observed continued ongoing fighting and efforts to encircle Mariupol. There continue to be reports of wide-spread utility outages (water and electricity)."

"We cannot independently verify claims of ceasefire violations," senior U.S. defense official adds.

Senior U.S. defense official:

"In the airspace, we continue to observe that the airspace over Ukraine is contested. Ukrainian air and missile defenses remain effective and in use. The Ukrainian military continues to fly aircraft and to employ air defense assets."

"We are aware of the Ukrainian military’s release of videos and numbers of Russian aircraft shot down," senior U.S. defense official says. "We cannot independently verify those incidents, but neither are we in a position to refute them."

"Both sides have taken losses to both aircraft and missile defense inventories," senior U.S. defense official says. "We are not going to speak to numbers. We assess that both sides still possess a majority of their air defense systems and capabilities."

"As of today, we assess that approximately 600 Russian missile launches have occurred since the invasion began," senior U.S. defense official says.

"We believe the Ukrainian people in most parts of the country still have means of communication, access to internet and the media," senior U.S. defense official says.

Pentagon says it cannot corroborate any reports of cluster munitions or thermobaric weapons in U.S., can't say whether the Russians are calling up reserves, and can't say whether any Russian naval infantry have been loaded on any "LSTs," a kind of landing craft.

Pentagon also will not corroborate Ukrainian reports that Ukrainian forces have shot down one Russian Su-25 fighter jet, two Russian Su-34 fighter-bombers, two Russian Su-30 SM planes, and four Russian helicopters today.

Finally, Pentagon says it cannot corroborate reports that Russian dropped 1,000-pound bombs near Chernihiv.
 
Live updates: Russian forces increase shelling, Ukraine says

LVIV, Ukraine — Russian forces stepped up their shelling of Ukrainian cities in the center, north and south of the country late Sunday, presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovich said.

“The latest wave of missile strikes came as darkness fell,” he said on Ukrainian television.

He said the areas that came under heavy shelling include the outskirts of Kyiv, Chernihiv in the north, Mykolaiv in the south, and Kharkiv, the country’s second-largest city.

Kharkiv officials said the shelling damaged the television tower and heavy artillery was hitting residential areas.

In Chernihiv officials said all regions of the city were coming under missile attack.

Arestovich described a “catastrophic” situation in the Kyiv suburbs of Bucha, Hostomel and Irpin, where efforts to evacuate residents on Sunday failed.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-u...y-business-807f67dcf116559d2646abb7ed851ca9ns.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Live updates: Russian forces increase shelling, Ukraine says

LVIV, Ukraine — Russian forces stepped up their shelling of Ukrainian cities in the center, north and south of the country late Sunday, presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovich said.

“The latest wave of missile strikes came as darkness fell,” he said on Ukrainian television.

He said the areas that came under heavy shelling include the outskirts of Kyiv, Chernihiv in the north, Mykolaiv in the south, and Kharkiv, the country’s second-largest city.

Kharkiv officials said the shelling damaged the television tower and heavy artillery was hitting residential areas.

In Chernihiv officials said all regions of the city were coming under missile attack.

Arestovich described a “catastrophic” situation in the Kyiv suburbs of Bucha, Hostomel and Irpin, where efforts to evacuate residents on Sunday failed.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-u...y-business-807f67dcf116559d2646abb7ed851ca9ns.
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This is beyond ugly Tree.
What's Putin's exit plan?
I doubt he'll pull a Hitler and shoot himself.
This is f'd up beyond belief.
 
vanzandt said:
This is beyond ugly Tree.
What's Putin's exit plan?
I doubt he'll pull a Hitler and shoot himself.
This is f'd up beyond belief.
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He doesn't have an exit plan, he is executing his plan and while we may might think it's going poorly it may in fact be going just how he wants. The West is hamstrung as to what we should do beyond sanctions and Putin is more than willing to have the Russian people endure some suffering to achieve his goals. Only way he goes is with a coup, a real coup, not some retards wearing horns and taking selfies.
 
vanzandt said:
This is beyond ugly Tree.
What's Putin's exit plan?
I doubt he'll pull a Hitler and shoot himself.
This is f'd up beyond belief.
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So far it looks like he does not plan to exit even if he did not want to get in this deep.

I doubt that he wants now to end out as the pariah of the new world and the Nouveau North Korea without having the big prize for all his trouble and fuck-up.

Looks like he going full scorched earth, keep Nato too scared to enter, occupy and install a puppet, and just ride it out by using propaganda, isolation, and fear to quell the masses just as he does at home in Russia. Note, that i am saying that he does not have an exit plan. Not that he will not get exited by slipping up and going too far and triggering things from the west that they said they would not do. He has us in a pretty tight place so i dont get cocky about our/Ukraine's ability to get rid of him. But he is crazy enough now to do something that the west cannot live with such as executing kids in the town square or starving everyone to death. I am strong advocate of not getting involved but if starts down the road that he is starting down by saying that helping the Ukrainians in any way, even if we do not enter the country ourselves, will be treated as an act of war then he is the one who is not giving us an out or a red line or an off-ramp. He has become like the wife beater that says no matter what you wear or do, I may kill you.

Gonna be Blue Birds over the White Cliffs of Dover at that point.
 
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