Russia & Ukraine

Putin once again shows he is all bark and no bite when it comes to NATO.


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They may not "view" it this way, but if they are not complete idiots, and they are not, they knew that NATO was a defensive organization. You have to be a complete, clinical, paranoiac to think that NATO was going to attack Russia without Russia attacking first. NATO before 2022 was basically falling apart, with the countries spending well below the agreed-upon amounts on it. The results of which we unfortunately are seeing now.

It is completely disingenuous on your part and on the Russians part to portray NATO as intending to attack Russia. Pure fantasy.

absolulutely pathetic gaslighting
 
Chinese backpedalling

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/05/world/europe/eu-china-embassador-russia-fu-cong.html

Just three weeks before Russia invaded Ukraine Presidents Vladimir V. Putin and Xi Jinping signed a joint statement declaring “no limits” to their countries’ friendship. But Mr. Fu said China was not on Russia’s side on the war and that some people “deliberately misinterpret this because there’s the so-called ‘no limit’ friendship or relationship.”


He added, “‘No limit’ is nothing but rhetoric.”

Mr. Fu said that China had not provided military assistance to Russia, nor recognized its efforts to annex Ukrainian territories, including Crimea and the Donbas.
 
I completely understand, does not constitute approval, of why this is happening. What I fail to understand is how silly or naive or both most posters here are. Russia does not view NATO as a defensive organisation, surely you can get that part. If NATO, call it OTAN, was to be positioned in Mexico, there would be an invasion of Mexico by the US. This is undeniable, if you do deny this, then you’re basically a total tool. I refuse to accept that folks in charge of NATO’s strategic development were not aware of this, therefore it was a provocation that led to this. Again, I do not approve of what’s going on, but it is what it is and your country/ies would not have acted any differently.

What complete nonsense you shovel.
 
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