Russia says better to save Greece from a default

[Hansel H]

Quote from dhpar:

Greece needs to default in order to make europe stronger. that's what russia does not want. i enjoy these naive comments above...

So Russians are rubbing their hands in anticipation of the collapse of Europe? How would this benefit Russia whose own economy is precarious?

 

[Hansel H]

Quote from Scataphagos:

There was a news crawler over the weekend, "Multi-TRILLION Dollar support package to save Euro being prepared"...

aka we MUST save Europe or we're all screwed.

 

[dhpar]

Quote from Hansel H:

So Russians are rubbing their hands in anticipation of the collapse of Europe? How would this benefit Russia whose own economy is precarious?

do you live in europe? or has direct experience with russians? have you ever been to russia? know russian history? understand how propaganda is used for domestic market vs strategic positioning in geopolitics?

the weak europe is something russia would love to see. e.g to make bilateral energy deals, sending individual countries against each other, kill nabucco, take back baltic states, no problems in caucasus etc etc etc...

you talk like you fell from the moon...

 

[intradaybill]

Quote from xiaodre:

Its not just Greece. Germany's policies run riot over all other countries in the EU. They are the big winners because they are exporters who have effectively captured their customers, and the ECBs economic policies are for them, and to a lesser extent, France. It's pretty damned rich for them to complain about Greeks, Irish, and Spanish when the structure of the Euro has always been about what they need, and not the other members.

Countries need their own ability to set interest rates, especially if they are not correllating well with Germany, because the Germans will screw them every single time. The best thing that could happen to Greece is that it will leave the Euro, and then give two fingers to the Germans when they come to collect in Euros vs their newly devalued currency. What Iceland did makes sense in this context.

Fuck the German bankers. And yet, who comes to Germany's rescue if this fantasy were to ever happen? That's right: Tim Geithner. So its just more of the same bullshit. Nobody fixes anything anymore.

+ 100

Nothing to add.

 

[Hansel H]

Quote from dhpar:

do you live in europe? or has direct experience with russians? have you ever been to russia? know russian history? understand how propaganda is used for domestic market vs strategic positioning in geopolitics?

the weak europe is something russia would love to see. e.g to make bilateral energy deals, sending individual countries against each other, kill nabucco, take back baltic states, no problems in caucasus etc etc etc...

you talk like you fell from the moon...

You talk like you fell out of 1960.

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from Hansel H:

aka we MUST save Europe or we're all screwed.

Certainly some would like all of us to believe that...

I mean, how could the world survive if speculators who placed leveraged bets on interest rates and real estate had to take their lumps for their greed? Or if parasitic tit-suckers had to make the choice, "take less or get nothing"?

 

[intradaybill]

Quote from THECOLONEL:

I am english,correct and proud of it- hence we are talking the english language- is that a bad thing?I have no probs with the greeks- never harmed me, all in all good friendly people- but nothing in common with them to be honest

Wait a little longer. You will find out soon what you have in common. The only significant difference between English and the Greeks is that over there they can grow plenty of food to feed themselves when riots start in Europe and German army again this time uses this as an excuse to invade.

If you know history at all, you have something in common with the Greeks. They are the only nation in Europe along with UK that stood against the Germans. Everybody else gave in, especially the friendly France who actually was their Ally. English and Greeks fought together in Greece and Middle East to damage German supply chain and prevent Cairo falling in the hands of blood thirsty Nazis.

In retaliation, the Germans burned Greek villages and killed all their inhabitants. There are reports of Germans killing pregnant women, taking the fetus out with a knife and stepping on it with their boots.

I am not going to say anything about what the Germans did to Jewish people. My parents lost many dear friends of Jewish decent then.

Germans behaved like animals 70 years ago and harmed many people. Do you think this animal instinct has gone away? They are blood thirsty. The biggest mistake of America ever was the re-unification of Germany. They created a beast.

 

[dhpar]

Quote from Hansel H:

You talk like you fell out of 1960.

1960?

for instance this is 10 days old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtdM5u2dqGk&feature=player_embedded

 

[atticus]

WTF cares.
WTF is Kudrin?
WTF is Kudrin waiting for? Russia, bail them out.

 

[Hansel H]

Quote from Scataphagos:

Certainly some would like all of us to believe that...

I mean, how could the world survive if speculators who placed leveraged bets on interest rates and real estate had to take their lumps for their greed? Or if parasitic tit-suckers had to make the choice, "take less or get nothing"?

We're caught in an exigencies trap. We have to opt for ad hoc solutions rather than long-term solutions because the global infrastructure is committed to a paradigm that hasn't a built-in tolerance for crisis. It's a global free market only when things are going smoothly; when things get rough everything's dumped in the collective lap of governments.