Russia Defaults On Foreign Debt

[VicBee]

Russian bombing of Ukraine is like a picnic compared to the US bombing of Vietnam

"The Vietnam War still holds the record for the war with the most bombs thrown in the history of the world. The total number of bombs that the US aircraft dropped on Vietnam was 7.85 million tons, nearly 3 times the total number of bombs that all countries used in World War II and the destructive power of 250 atom bombs that the US threw on Hiroshima. On average, each Vietnamese person at that time suffered about 250 kg of bombs dropped from US aircraft. That is not to mention 7.5 million tons of ammunition used by the US on the ground (including grenades, mines, explosives, artillery shells of all kinds) and 45,260 tons (about 75 million liters) of toxic chemicals by the US. sprayed on the country of Vietnam"

Yes, there's no doubt that the US has committed atrocities, over and over, since it became a country. Package our history with patriotic mumbojumbo, add religious parables and keep education to a minimum. God, flag and guns in a nutshell.
For decades post WW2, the US stood for ideals that resonated in a world so deeply damaged by war. But we turned out to be no different than anyone else, with our self interests, our righteousness, our bullying, our self importance and lack of humility. We were so imbued with our military superiority, our accumulated capital, our nation unscathed by the destructions of war and our newfound global power that we took it all for granted.
Reality is that we are as devious as anyone else. We don't save the world from itself, we don't spread democracy, we don't teach wholesome christian values. We act according to our interests, wrapped in simple morals all can understand and move on.

Eventually everyone catches on, and the Americone Dream doesn't taste good anymore. On both ends of the pendulum our values are warped, too much mayo in the sandwich, too much attention on Me, too much paranoia, too many uniforms, too many screams for respect yet can't dispense simple courtesy.
For those who don't know yet, America is a poor, violent country. Thankfully we have Mexico next door to measure against, which makes us look good enough.
So, how dare Russia invade Ukraine, a country that aspires to democratic ideals, wants to join the EU and one day maybe, join NATO? The simple answer is, because it's looking out for its own interests and it thinks it can, just like we do. Didn't we invade Iraq? Our interest was nebulous at best, unless we consider Israel our 51st state.
Don't get me wrong, Russia's invasion of Ukraine is appalling and they should pay dearly for trying. China's future invasion of Taiwan will be just as appalling and I hope they also pay dearly. And anytime the US invades another country, they should also pay dearly. What do these 3 countries have in common? They only abide by international law when it suits their interests, because they can.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

Russian bombing of Ukraine is like a picnic compared to the US bombing of Vietnam

"The Vietnam War still holds the record for the war with the most bombs thrown in the history of the world. The total number of bombs that the US aircraft dropped on Vietnam was 7.85 million tons, nearly 3 times the total number of bombs that all countries used in World War II and the destructive power of 250 atom bombs that the US threw on Hiroshima. On average, each Vietnamese person at that time suffered about 250 kg of bombs dropped from US aircraft. That is not to mention 7.5 million tons of ammunition used by the US on the ground (including grenades, mines, explosives, artillery shells of all kinds) and 45,260 tons (about 75 million liters) of toxic chemicals by the US. sprayed on the country of Vietnam"

And they still lost.

 

[kashirin]

Well, you're a delusional Russian so I won't give a long reply. Russia recently attacked a shopping mall, it has attacked kindergartens, schools, cultural centres. Sure, they were all full of Ukrainian soldiers as you will claim. Your blind following of Putin will never accept the truth. All of the world is wrong, only Putin and his fanatical followers are right...

You're delusional propaganda victim.
Do you still wear mask and got your 5th COVID shot?
I noticed most Russia haters and Ukraine supporters also we're in favor of strict lockdowns.
And before that they were obsessed with global warming

 

[VicBee]

You're delusional propaganda victim.
Do you still wear mask and got your 5th COVID shot?
I noticed most Russia haters and Ukraine supporters also we're in favor of strict lockdowns.
And before that they were obsessed with global warming

Sorry mate, you can't link your 'everything is equal" stance by suggest that COVID vaccinated people and those who care about the environment are the only supporters of Ukraine. Identifying as a right winger to get support makes you an instant mole.
Btw, nothing is equal. Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around.

 

[piezoe]

Mastricht is a joke, so is everything the EU does in general.

Well I have to doubt this is the case. I don't think the EU was joking when the ECB impounded Russia's foreign reserves account. And by now I would guess that even Mr. Putin doesn't think it's a joke. Do you think that the EU is joking when they provide weapons to Ukraine? If so, that "joking" is causing thousands of young Russians to return home in body bags. I doubt those boys moms think the EU is joking.

The Russians can never win this war in Ukraine, for exactly the same reasons the U.S, could never win it's war in Vietnam. What is the point of waging an unwinnable war?

 

[David's faith]

Well I have to doubt this is the case. I don't think the EU was joking when the ECB impounded Russia's Euro foreign reserve account. And by now I would guess that even Mr. Putin doesn't think that's a joke. Do you think that the EU is joking when they provide weapon to Uktaine. That "joking" is causing young Russians to return home in body bags. I doubt those boys moms think the EU is joking.

You are right but there is no link between those 2 topics. But still, they are dependent on Russian commodities so yes, that's a joke too. The EU might go bankrupt on this or fall into hyperinflation.

 

[VicBee]

You are right but there is no link between those 2 topics. But still, they are dependent on Russian commodities so yes, that's a joke too. The EU might go bankrupt on this or fall into hyperinflation.

About 1/3 of EU trade is with Russia and vice versa. However, EU is much more diversified than Russia is and the EU can find alternative commodities from other parts of the world, something Russia cannot do under embargo, except for China.

 

[David's faith]

About 1/3 of EU trade is with Russia and vice versa. However, EU is much more diversified than Russia is and the EU can find alternative commodities from other parts of the world, something Russia cannot do under embargo, except for China.

Yes Europe can diversify, but that means more inflation. Europe can't afford that.

 

[countryBoy641]

Yes, there's no doubt that the US has committed atrocities, over and over, since it became a country. Package our history with patriotic mumbojumbo, add religious parables and keep education to a minimum. God, flag and guns in a nutshell.
For decades post WW2, the US stood for ideals that resonated in a world so deeply damaged by war. But we turned out to be no different than anyone else, with our self interests, our righteousness, our bullying, our self importance and lack of humility. We were so imbued with our military superiority, our accumulated capital, our nation unscathed by the destructions of war and our newfound global power that we took it all for granted.
Reality is that we are as devious as anyone else. We don't save the world from itself, we don't spread democracy, we don't teach wholesome christian values. We act according to our interests, wrapped in simple morals all can understand and move on.

Eventually everyone catches on, and the Americone Dream doesn't taste good anymore. On both ends of the pendulum our values are warped, too much mayo in the sandwich, too much attention on Me, too much paranoia, too many uniforms, too many screams for respect yet can't dispense simple courtesy.
For those who don't know yet, America is a poor, violent country. Thankfully we have Mexico next door to measure against, which makes us look good enough.
So, how dare Russia invade Ukraine, a country that aspires to democratic ideals, wants to join the EU and one day maybe, join NATO? The simple answer is, because it's looking out for its own interests and it thinks it can, just like we do. Didn't we invade Iraq? Our interest was nebulous at best, unless we consider Israel our 51st state.
Don't get me wrong, Russia's invasion of Ukraine is appalling and they should pay dearly for trying. China's future invasion of Taiwan will be just as appalling and I hope they also pay dearly. And anytime the US invades another country, they should also pay dearly. What do these 3 countries have in common? They only abide by international law when it suits their interests, because they can.

The U.S. was arguably the king of Natural Resources (Energy + mining/metals + agriculture)
through to the middle of the 20th century, maybe into the 1950s or 1960s.
But that is certainly over now, and that leadership has transitioned to Russia.
Every Sovereign has a printing press, but none of them can print energy or basic food components.
Does the U.S. now have a huge conflict of interest when it comes to disciplining Russia, in term of "human rights violations"?

 

[piezoe]

The U.S. was arguably the king of Natural Resources (Energy + mining/metals + agriculture)
through to the middle of the 20th century, maybe into the 1950s or 1960s.
But that is certainly over now, and that leadership has transitioned to Russia.
Every Sovereign has a printing press, but none of them can print energy or basic food components.
Does the U.S. now have a huge conflict of interest when it comes to disciplining Russia, in term of "human rights violations"?

Wars like that started by Russia in Ukraine have a way of realigning nations. There are many sources of commodities needed to support the modern democratic nations high standards of living. Alternative sources will take some time to be developed to the point they can replace Russian sources. That's in progress. Just as the Trump tariffs caused a permanent loss of some U.S. soybean markets to South American, the war in Ukraine will cause a permanent loss of some Russian commodity markets. The world is awash in oil and will become even more awash with the shift to electric vehicles and to nuclear, solar and wind energy. It will take time to re-align markets. The re-alignment is in progress.

Sadly, the Russian people's heritage seems irrevocably intertwined with suffering and hardship. It appears this will continue for now. There was a brief hiatus when Western nations thought Russia was changing; it turns out the Western Nations were wrong.