Royal Caribbean requires Proof of Vaccination for all passengers -- Quietly tells DeSantis off

[gwb-trading]

Well it's not looking good for the cruise industry. Others have noted that most of the crews were vaccinated with one dose J&J vaccines (if not previously vaccinated in their home country) but this may not have an impact because there seems to be more passengers than crew who are testing positive (as far as I can tell from individual news articles).

Every US passenger cruise currently has Covid cases on board
https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...us-covid-coronavirus-passengers-b1987873.html

Every passenger cruise currently sailing in US waters has reported Covid-19 cases onboard.

All 92 ships have now met the threshold for investigation by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), reports the Washington Post.

 

[Wallet]

Well it's not looking good for the cruise industry. Others have noted that most of the crews were vaccinated with one dose J&J vaccines (if not previously vaccinated in their home country) but this may not have an impact because there seems to be more passengers than crew who are testing positive (as far as I can tell from individual news articles).

Every US passenger cruise currently has Covid cases on board
https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...us-covid-coronavirus-passengers-b1987873.html

Every passenger cruise currently sailing in US waters has reported Covid-19 cases onboard.

All 92 ships have now met the threshold for investigation by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), reports the Washington Post.

All cruise ships.....

Kinda blows apart the whole covid-pass narrative, don’t ya think?

You would think with a 100% vaccinated ship, a breakout of covid would be the exception not the 100% rule.

 

[gwb-trading]

All cruise ships.....

Kinda blows apart the whole covid-pass narrative, don’t ya think?

You would think with a 100% vaccinated ship, a breakout of covid would be the exception not the 100% rule.

The ships with lower vaccination rates among passengers (let's say RCL compared to Celebrity) are having worse Covid breakouts in terms of numbers. Remember cruise lines that focus on families (RCL, etc.) are generally sailing with unvaccinated children plus others allowing up to 5% of the people on board generally to be unvaccinated. I will also mention there is no requirement for boosters which is important for Omicron.

Due to the majority of passengers being vaccinated these breakouts are being confined to a few dozen people rather than hundreds of people. But still this problem is enough to get many people to unbook upcoming cruises -- which is going to hurt the finances of these cruise lines.

The good news is that there has not been a single recent case on these cruise ships which was severe and require hospitalization. We can probably thank vaccination for this.

 

[gwb-trading]

Not looking good for the cruise industry. Especially in view that many people are un-booking their planned cruises.

CDC director says Covid cases on cruise ships surged 30-fold in two weeks

• Cruise ships have seen a 30-fold increase in positive Covid-19 cases in the past two weeks, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said during a Senate hearing Tuesday.
• The stark increase in cases comes after the agency warned against cruise ship travel, regardless of passengers’ vaccination status.
• Ships operating in U.S. waters reported about 5,000 Covid cases from Dec. 15 through Dec. 29. Walensky didn’t provide updated figures on Tuesday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/11/cdc...e-ships-surged-30-fold-in-last-two-weeks.html

 

[Tsing Tao]

Not looking good for the cruise industry. Especially in view that many people are un-booking their planned cruises.

CDC director says Covid cases on cruise ships surged 30-fold in two weeks

• Cruise ships have seen a 30-fold increase in positive Covid-19 cases in the past two weeks, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said during a Senate hearing Tuesday.
• The stark increase in cases comes after the agency warned against cruise ship travel, regardless of passengers’ vaccination status.
• Ships operating in U.S. waters reported about 5,000 Covid cases from Dec. 15 through Dec. 29. Walensky didn’t provide updated figures on Tuesday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/11/cdc...e-ships-surged-30-fold-in-last-two-weeks.html

Whocouldanode??

Fully vax'd cruises still get COVID? Its almost like The Science™ didn't matter?? hahaha...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1481072978272133120

 

[wrbtrader]

The ships with lower vaccination rates among passengers (let's say RCL compared to Celebrity) are having worse Covid breakouts in terms of numbers. Remember cruise lines that focus on families (RCL, etc.) are generally sailing with unvaccinated children plus others allowing up to 5% of the people on board generally to be unvaccinated. I will also mention there is no requirement for boosters which is important for Omicron.

Due to the majority of passengers being vaccinated these breakouts are being confined to a few dozen people rather than hundreds of people. But still this problem is enough to get many people to unbook upcoming cruises -- which is going to hurt the finances of these cruise lines.

The good news is that there has not been a single recent case on these cruise ships which was severe and require hospitalization. We can probably thank vaccination for this.

Correct, these cruise that require adults to be vaccinated...they have been giving exemption to young children, those with medical reasons and religious reasons from the required vaccination.

Consider this...they are trying to make money and anyone that's important (VIP) but wants to board the ship for a cruise...they will bypass the vaccination requirement too.

Simply, cruise ships are not 100% vaccinated even though they have a vaccination requirement. No different than wealthy people flying all over the world in private jets...bypassing vaccination requirements including bypassing quarantine requirements upon arrival.

Plus, more and more people are using faked vaccination documents.

wrbtrader

 

[Tsing Tao]

All Vax Cruise Lines cancels cruise mid-cruise for COVID outbreak.

LOL

Norwegian cruise ship cancels midvoyage amid COVID-19-related issues

 

[Tsing Tao]

It's a good thing everyone is vax'd and masking, right GWB?

What it's like to cruise during Omicron

(CNN) — Cruise ships turning around mid-voyage. People placed in quarantine cabins on board. Voyages abruptly canceled. Crew members trying to appease unhappy customers.

It all feels a bit like deja vu, but the cruise industry is soldiering on as the Omicron coronavirus variant makes its presence felt at sea as it has on land.

In the early days of the pandemic, cruise ships became synonymous with Covid-19, as virus-hit vessels struggled to disembark passengers and crew. The cruise industry subsequently shut down for months, and while some European journeys recommenced in summer 2020, cruise ships didn't navigate US waters for another year.

When cruising did return, it was with stringent rules designed to mitigate the impact of Covid-19. This combination of mask-wearing, testing, vaccinations and increased medical facilities led Martyn Griffiths of industry body Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA) to tell CNN Travel in June 2021 that cruise ships were "one of the safest vacation environments available today."
Vessels weren't guaranteed virus-free, CLIA said, but the goal was to avoid severe illness and major disruption.
Six months later, as the highly transmissible Omicron spreads around the world, the situation seems a little more precarious.

Health and safety
"There is no doubt that the Omicron variant has cast a great deal of uncertainty into the travel and tourism sector overall," said Bari Golin-Blaugrund, another CLIA representative, in a recent CNN Travel interview.
Golin-Blaugrund made the case that while there have been several recent reports of Covid outbreaks on board the world's cruise ships, Covid cases are a "minority."
She said cruise lines remain confident in their health and safety measures, adding that these measures "are proving successful to virtually eliminate severe outcomes," as hospitalizations are minimal.
While fully vaccinated people are not immune to Omicron, Dr William Schaffner, an infectious diseases expert at Vanderbilt University, told CNN Travel that "booster shots improve the individual's protection against getting severe disease."

However Schaffner cast doubt on cruise lines' ability to control the spread of the virus on board, even with fully vaccinated passengers and crew, and additional levels of protection in place such as mask wearing and regular testing.

"It's not so clear how much boosting helps to diminish transmission, especially in such high potential transmission circumstances where people are so close together for such prolonged periods of time," he said.
Schaffner suggested any traveler who chooses to go on a cruise at present is likely aware of the potential risk and uncertainty, and will have weighed this up before boarding.

"I think they must share a certain confidence in what it is that both the cruise line industry, as well as their fellow passengers are doing in order to mitigate the risk," he said.

"And to a degree, they must feel themselves if not invulnerable, but likely to survive an infection. I mean, you would have to go through that kind of thinking before you decided to go cruising at the present."

 

[El OchoCinco]

It's a good thing everyone is vax'd and masking, right GWB?


Golin-Blaugrund made the case that while there have been several recent reports of Covid outbreaks on board the world's cruise ships, Covid cases are a "minority."

Doesn't the article actually answer your question?

If people want to cruise and jam themselves in ships then it is really assumption of risk...

 

[Tsing Tao]

Doesn't the article actually answer your question?

I'm asking GWB his opinion on cruises. But if you feel the need to jump in, you can (and have). How do you feel about cruises? Would you go on one now that they're all vaxxed and masked?