Vaccinated breakthrough rate is always based on reported cases -- based on testing.
Not surprising that vaccinated breakthrough cases are going up with Omicron which is more infectious and vaccine evasive than earlier Covid variants.
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Vaccinated breakthrough rate is always based on reported cases -- based on testing.
Not surprising that vaccinated breakthrough cases are going up with Omicron which is more infectious and vaccine evasive than earlier Covid variants.
And what i'm saying is that if someone who is vaccinated is at home with minor symptoms, that's a breakthrough case - but it isn't reported.
No, it is not a breakthrough case --- it is an unreported infection.
As noted many times before -- there are likely 2 to 3 estimated infections for each reported Covid case. This information is backed up by other types of testing such as sewage testing in many cities to determine overall infection level.
Early in the pandemic when there was not much testing available -- the ratio was likely 10 estimated infections for each reported case. But this has reduced over time -- in an current environment with ample testing -- to where it is just above 2 to 1 in the U.S. (as per late October estimates). It is likely increasing with Omicron -- but sewage monitoring still shows it below 3 to 1.
Note that it is likely that a greater percentage number of unreported infections are among the unvaccinated rather than the vaccinated -- following the trend of reported cases. This means from an overall "breakthrough scenario" the unreported vaccinated infections are less than those among the vaccinated.
You continue to sidestep.
Hide under technicalities. The MO of the Religion™.
So tell us the scientific difference between the proven Case Fatality Rate (CFR) and estimated Infection Fatality Rate (IFR).
Same situation.
Is the IFR higher than the CFR?
First explain the difference.
Oh, good grief. Let’s just manipulate the data to fit the narrative. Regardless of how you want to label it, if a vaccinated person comes down with Covid, it’s a breakthrough. If they test positive at a lab, at home, or don’t test at all but are sick, guess what - vaccinated gets covid = breakthrough.
And here’s another question, trying to find the answer sifting though a mountain of double-talk. Is the “breakthrough” rate only figured at the moment?
Example (and I’m just throwing numbers), today there’s 100,000 people vaccinated who have tested positive. So you take the number today against the total........ but what about the people who tested positive last month or the month before that, or future breakthroughs. Does the “breakthrough rate” take into account everyone or just the moment?
What about the ones who were asymptomatic and/or never tested?