Romney over Obama?

[jem]

1. Would please show me where Obama himself has proffered a birth certificate to anyone and said that the birth certificate is accurate.



His passport application to the State Department,which he had to personally sign .Lying on that application or giving false documents is a federal crime.I believe that is also the case on state levels with issues like drivers licenses etc


jem says really... you have seen this application?

2. When you say everyone has certified him... what exactly did they certify... what evidence did they rely on


The 2008 Presidential election as required by The Constitution

They relied on official state documents,which Obama has provided

jem says - you have seen these docs?


3. A supreme court justice swore him in... does that really mean anything. He bumbled the oath does that mean anything? (this seems like throw away point to me.)


I think it does as I doubt a Supreme Court Justice would swear in someone as President who is constitutionally not eligible

jem says - as with the prior answers
your doubts and speculations don't amount to evidence do they?

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from jem:



jem says really... you have seen this application?



jem says - you have seen these docs?

No jem,I have not seen personally seen Obamas application or other docs


Have you personally seen George Bush's,Bill Clinton's,Ronald Reagan's etc passport application or other docs ?

 

[Range Rover]

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the issue is place of birth

When this issue gets tried the original records will be subpoenaed and if they have them they will be admitted.

jem,The Supreme Court has thrown out birther cases twice, numerous federal courts and federal appellate courts have thrown out every case on the issue,even a military court has thrown out the birther nonsense.Nothing wrong with hoping,just don't get yourself in trouble over the issue like Col Linkin

 

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Hello:

...There is something about conspiracy theorists which allows some of these otherwise hardworking and sane individuals to throw caution to the wind, and blow out their entire career based on an absurd Idea.

Often times i also find myself wondering how someone can work their way through the entire process of becoming sucessful(which requires people skills and sanity) only to make themselves look like a total lunatic based on a ridiculous conspiracy theory. I dont understand it either because while i have met many people who are successful who have minor quirks it seems very seldom that you meet a successful person who has no concept of logic whatsoever...

Late-onset schizophrenia. However, where birthers are concerned, in aggregate I believe the matter is tinged principally with racism and secondarily, if at all, with psychosis. The birther movement began with, and has been sustained by, a racist element. There may be genuine exceptions to the racist underpinning, but if you had to bet on any one birther sight unseen, that's not where the smart money would be.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Gabfly1:

Late-onset schizophrenia. However, where birthers are concerned, in aggregate I believe the matter is tinged principally with racism and secondarily, if at all, with psychosis. The birther movement began with, and has been sustained by, a racist element. There may be exceptions, but if you had to bet on any one birther, that's not where the smart money would be.

BULLSHIT!

But congratulations on using the words birther and racist/racism no less than FIVE times in one short paragraph. Very...uh...imaginative.

 

[Gabfly1]

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BULLSHIT!

But congratulations on using the words birther and racist/racism no less than FIVE times in one short paragraph. Very...uh...imaginative.

This from someone who has already been outed as a racist time and again. You're not even a closet racist. All that separates you from the people who see you for what you are is a beaded curtain. You're out. It's done. Denial won't cut it. Going back is not so simple.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Gabfly1:

This from someone who has already been outed as a racist time and again. You're not even a closet racist. All that separates you from the people who see you for what you are is a beaded curtain. You're out. It's done. Going back is not so simple.

This from someone who has already been outed as gay time and again. You're not even a closet gay. All that separates you from the people who see you for what you are is a beaded curtain. You're out. It's done. Going back is not so simple.

 

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Lucrum:

This from someone who has already been outed as gay time and again. You're not even a closet gay. All that separates you from the people who see you for what you are is a beaded curtain. You're out. It's done. Going back is not so simple.

If I were, I would admit it. It may not be an easy life in the face of bigotry, but denial would be a harder existence. Hell, admitting I'm a liberal here at ET is about as popular.

But you, you are racist. You know it. I know it. And you know I know it. That bell has rung.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2924802&highlight=lucrum+racist#post2924802

 

[Lucrum]

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But you, you are racist. You know it. I know it. And you know I know it. That bell has rung.

Lets recap, a girlie man flaming liberal who accuses anyone and everyone who disagrees with him of being a racist almost daily.

Accuses me of racism.

I'll alert the media.

 

[jem]

Quote from Range Rover:

No jem,I have not seen personally seen Obamas application or other docs


Have you personally seen George Bush's,Bill Clinton's,Ronald Reagan's etc passport application or other docs ?

No I have not but their Dads were not from Kenya.
Their moms did not live all over.
They were not educated under a different name in a madrassa in asia under a different name... or at least that is what some are saying.

It is only reasonable to wonder if he is a natural born citizen.

But, I do not know if his a natural born citizen or not. I do not know if he gave up his citizenship or not.

Lets see what texas and a few other states find out.